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		<title>‘Star Trek’ at 60: How a Canceled TV Show Became a Pop Culture Phenomenon That Changed Sci-Fi</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[When Star Trek premiered on NBC, there was little indication that Gene Roddenberry&#8217;s science-fiction series would become one of the most enduring creations in popular culture; the feeling at the time was that it would likely have more in common with Irwin Allen&#8217;s Lost in Space than anything innovative. Starring William Shatner as Captain James [&#8230;]]]></description>
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<?xml encoding="utf-8" ?><html><body><p><span style="font-weight: 400;">When </span><a href="https://www.womansworld.com/tag/star-trek" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Star Trek</span></i></a><span style="font-weight: 400;"> premiered on NBC, there was little indication that Gene Roddenberry&rsquo;s <a href="https://www.womansworld.com/tag/sci-fi" target="_blank" rel="noopener">science-fiction</a> series would become one of the most enduring creations in popular culture; the feeling at the time was that it would likely have more in common with Irwin Allen&rsquo;s <a href="https://www.womansworld.com/entertainment/classic-tv/lost-in-space-cast-members-we-have-lost-a-tribute" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><em>Lost in Space</em> </a>than anything innovative. Starring William Shatner as Captain James T. Kirk, Leonard Nimoy as Mr. Spock and <a href="https://www.womansworld.com/entertainment/classic-tv/deforest-kelley" target="_blank" rel="noopener">DeForest Kelley</a> as Dr. Leonard &ldquo;Bones&rdquo; McCoy, the series struggled in the ratings throughout its three-season run, surviving due to a famous fan <a href="https://www.womansworld.com/entertainment/classic-tv/how-star-trek-fans-saved-the-show" target="_blank" rel="noopener">letter-writing campaign</a> before finally being cancelled in 1969 after 79 episodes.&nbsp;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Yet cancellation proved to be the beginning rather than the end. Syndication exposed </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Star Trek</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> to viewers who had missed it on NBC, frequently airing the show five nights a week and allowing audiences to become immersed in its characters and universe. College students embraced it, original paperback novels and James Blish&rsquo;s episode adaptations kept it alive, and organized fandom began growing at an extraordinary rate. The first major New York </span><a href="https://www.womansworld.com/entertainment/classic-tv/lost-history-of-the-first-star-trek-convention-in-1972-exclusive" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Star Trek</span></i></a><span style="font-weight: 400;"> convention in 1972&mdash;which attracted thousands more fans than organizers expected&mdash;was followed by increasingly massive gatherings in New York and eventually around the country.&nbsp;</span></p>
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<p>Devra Langsam, one of the organizers of that first convention, says of that event, &ldquo;By the time we arrived ahead of the convention, we had between 800 and 900 people preregistered. We thought that was great; usually your preregistration doubled for the convention itself.&rdquo;</p>

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<p>&ldquo;We thought maybe 1500 or 1600 people would show up altogether,&rdquo; adds Elyse Rosenstein. &ldquo;We had 2,000 badges and 2,000 program books. Apparently, as we discovered, when you advertise, you get more people. We ended up with about 3500 people showing up. Not all at once, thank goodness.&rdquo;</p>
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<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">NBC responded to the show&rsquo;s unexpected afterlife with </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Star Trek: The Animated Series</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> in 1973, reuniting most of the original cast and winning the franchise its first Emmy. By 1976, a decade after its debut, </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Star Trek</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> had undergone an extraordinary transformation: a cancelled television show had become a genuine cultural phenomenon, and Paramount was beginning to seriously consider bringing it back. Aborted attempts to do so included Gene Roddenberry&rsquo;s </span><a href="https://www.womansworld.com/entertainment/classic-tv/star-trek-the-god-thing-the-lost-movie-with-kirk-vs-jesus" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">The God Thing</span></i></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">, which would have culminated in a fight between Kirk and (believe it or not) Jesus Christ on the bridge of the </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Enterprise</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">; and </span><a href="https://www.womansworld.com/entertainment/classic-tv/star-trek-planet-of-the-titans-the-epic-1976-lost-adventure" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Planet of the Titans</span></i></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">, which would have been directed by </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">The Right Stuff</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">&rsquo;s Philip Kaufman and been a very different take on </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Trek</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">.&nbsp;</span></p>
<p>&ldquo;Whatever the requirement of sixties television were, they were really lacking in a visual quality,&rdquo; muses Kaufman, &ldquo;and in all those things that a feature film in science fiction needed to have. I felt that those elements were in there, if properly thought out and expanded, and could be a fantastic event. We knew what the feature films in science fiction had been prior to this:&nbsp;<em>2001: A Space Odyssey, Planet of the Apes</em>, a few of these things that were wondrous adventures.</p>
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<p>&ldquo;Gene,&rdquo; he continues, &ldquo;was a great guy, but it was a little bit of the Alec Guinness syndrome in&nbsp;<em>Bridge on the River Kwai</em>. He built a bridge and he didn&rsquo;t want to be rescued and he couldn&rsquo;t see anything other than what he wanted it to be. I thought science fiction should go forward and I thought that the order was to go boldly where no man has gone before, but Roddenberry wanted to go back.&rdquo;</p>
<h2><b>1977&ndash;1986: </b><b><i>Star Wars</i></b><b>, the movies and the birth of a franchise</b></h2>
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<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">The second decade began with </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Star Trek</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> poised for resurrection. Paramount initially developed a feature film, then shifted course and announced </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Star Trek: Phase II</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">, a new television series that would reunite most of the </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Enterprise</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> crew. Everything changed after the phenomenal success of </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Star Wars</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> and </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Close Encounters of the Third Kind</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> in 1977 demonstrated the enormous theatrical appetite for science fiction. </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Phase II</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> was abandoned and its planned pilot evolved into 1979&rsquo;s </span><a href="https://www.womansworld.com/entertainment/classic-tv/star-trek-the-motion-picture-1979-cast-bts-photos-and-stories" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Star Trek: The Motion Picture</span></i></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">.&nbsp;</span></p>
<p>&ldquo;It was a strange feeling,&rdquo; William Shatner admits regarding having reprised the role in the first film, &ldquo;full of complex, even conflicting emotions. Ten years in my life suddenly had been swept away just as though they had never existed. I knew it was 1979, but it seemed like 1969 was just yesterday. I felt exhilarated, gratified, nostalgic. At the same time, there was a tinge of disbelief and a bit of concern. I guess each of those feelings was traceable to the fact that all of us had waited so long for this to happen. It was difficult, after so many starts over a number of years, to realize <em>Star Trek&nbsp;</em>was really back.&rdquo;</p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Despite mixed reviews, its box-office performance proved that the audience was still there. The lower-budget </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> followed in 1982 and revitalized the series creatively, delivering the death of Spock and establishing a story that continued through </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">The Search for Spock</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> in 1984. Leonard Nimoy moved behind the camera to direct that film as well as 1986&rsquo;s enormously successful </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">.&nbsp;</span></p>
<figure id="attachment_623005" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-623005" style="width: 1200px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="size-full wp-image-623005" src="https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/05/star-trek-iv-the-voyage-home_udrVzx.jpg" alt="Leonard Nimoy, William Shatner, DeForest Kelley and James Doohan in 'Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home'" width="1200" height="677" srcset="https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/05/star-trek-iv-the-voyage-home_udrVzx.jpg?quality=71&amp;strip=all 1200w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/05/star-trek-iv-the-voyage-home_udrVzx.jpg?resize=293%2C165&amp;quality=81&amp;strip=all 293w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/05/star-trek-iv-the-voyage-home_udrVzx.jpg?resize=300%2C169&amp;quality=81&amp;strip=all 300w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/05/star-trek-iv-the-voyage-home_udrVzx.jpg?resize=768%2C433&amp;quality=65&amp;strip=all 768w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/05/star-trek-iv-the-voyage-home_udrVzx.jpg?resize=1024%2C578&amp;quality=78&amp;strip=all 1024w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/05/star-trek-iv-the-voyage-home_udrVzx.jpg?resize=50%2C28&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 50w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/05/star-trek-iv-the-voyage-home_udrVzx.jpg?resize=400%2C226&amp;quality=62&amp;strip=all 400w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/05/star-trek-iv-the-voyage-home_udrVzx.jpg?resize=500%2C282&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 500w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/05/star-trek-iv-the-voyage-home_udrVzx.jpg?resize=600%2C339&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 600w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/05/star-trek-iv-the-voyage-home_udrVzx.jpg?resize=305%2C172&amp;quality=81&amp;strip=all 305w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/05/star-trek-iv-the-voyage-home_udrVzx.jpg?resize=413%2C233&amp;quality=62&amp;strip=all 413w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/05/star-trek-iv-the-voyage-home_udrVzx.jpg?resize=627%2C354&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 627w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/05/star-trek-iv-the-voyage-home_udrVzx.jpg?resize=842%2C475&amp;quality=65&amp;strip=all 842w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/05/star-trek-iv-the-voyage-home_udrVzx.jpg?resize=950%2C536&amp;quality=78&amp;strip=all 950w" sizes="(max-width: 680px) calc(100vw - 60px), 660px"><figcaption><span class="figcaption-inner"><span class="caption wp-caption-623005">Leonard Nimoy, William Shatner, DeForest Kelley and James Doohan in &lsquo;Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home&rsquo;</span><br><span class="credit wp-credit-623005">©Paramount Pictures/courtesy MovieStillsDB.com</span></span></figcaption></figure>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Meanwhile, the phenomenon surrounding </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Star Trek</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> continued expanding through conventions, novels, merchandise, fan clubs and an increasingly organized fan culture. Twenty years after NBC premiered a television series that barely survived three seasons, </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Star Trek</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> had become a reliable movie property&mdash;and Paramount was preparing to do something once considered almost unthinkable: create a new </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Star Trek</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> without Kirk and Spock at its center.</span></p>
<h2><b>1987&ndash;1996: &lsquo;Star Trek: The Next Generation&rsquo; arrives</b></h2>
<figure id="attachment_603949" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-603949" style="width: 1200px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="size-full wp-image-603949" src="https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/TSDSTTR_PT131.jpg" alt="STAR TREK: THE NEXT GENERATION, from left: Wil Wheaton, Denise Crosby, LeVar Burton, Jonathan Frakes, Patrick Stewart, Gates McFadden, Michael Dorn, Marina Sirtis, Brent Spiner, (1987), 1987-94." width="1200" height="690" srcset="https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/TSDSTTR_PT131.jpg?quality=86&amp;strip=all 1200w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/TSDSTTR_PT131.jpg?resize=287%2C165&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 287w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/TSDSTTR_PT131.jpg?resize=300%2C173&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 300w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/TSDSTTR_PT131.jpg?resize=768%2C442&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 768w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/TSDSTTR_PT131.jpg?resize=1024%2C589&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 1024w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/TSDSTTR_PT131.jpg?resize=50%2C29&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 50w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/TSDSTTR_PT131.jpg?resize=400%2C230&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 400w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/TSDSTTR_PT131.jpg?resize=500%2C288&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 500w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/TSDSTTR_PT131.jpg?resize=600%2C345&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 600w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/TSDSTTR_PT131.jpg?resize=200%2C115&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 200w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/TSDSTTR_PT131.jpg?resize=299%2C172&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 299w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/TSDSTTR_PT131.jpg?resize=405%2C233&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 405w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/TSDSTTR_PT131.jpg?resize=616%2C354&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 616w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/TSDSTTR_PT131.jpg?resize=826%2C475&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 826w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/TSDSTTR_PT131.jpg?resize=932%2C536&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 932w" sizes="(max-width: 680px) calc(100vw - 60px), 660px"><figcaption><span class="figcaption-inner"><span class="caption wp-caption-603949">STAR TREK: THE NEXT GENERATION, from left: Wil Wheaton, Denise Crosby, LeVar Burton, Jonathan Frakes, Patrick Stewart, Gates McFadden, Michael Dorn, Marina Sirtis, Brent Spiner, (1987), 1987-94.</span><br><span class="credit wp-credit-603949">©Paramount Television/ Courtesy Everett Collection</span></span></figcaption></figure>
<p><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Star Trek: The Next Generation</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> premiered in syndication in 1987 amid considerable skepticism over whether audiences would accept a new </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Enterprise</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> commanded by Patrick Stewart&rsquo;s Captain Jean-Luc Picard rather than Kirk. The answer ultimately transformed </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Star Trek</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">.&nbsp; For his part, Roddenberry was extremely reluctant to create the series, though he found himself challenged to do so.</span></p>
<p>&ldquo;Put yourself in my place,&rdquo; he said. &ldquo;You think you did it all, that you&rsquo;re really basically responsible for the first <em>Star Trek</em>, but so many years have gone by and success has many fathers. For 22 years there had been a collection of people who have said, &lsquo;He didn&rsquo;t really do it. It was me or my brother or my friend of this or that person.&rsquo; I found myself thinking, &lsquo;They could be right.&rsquo; The first sign of insanity is that everyone is out of step except you. The net result of all of this made me mad, very angry.</p>
<p>&ldquo;<em>Star Trek</em>,&rdquo; I said to myself, &ldquo;may be an ego-bent dream, and the rumormongers may be right, but at least I&rsquo;m going to have the courage to say, &lsquo;F**k you&rsquo; as I go back to it. The more I considered it, the angrier I got. If someone could create&nbsp;<em>Star Trek&nbsp;</em>more easily, why didn&rsquo;t more people do something like it in the 22 years since we did the original series?&rdquo;</p>
<figure id="attachment_604754" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-604754" style="width: 2237px" class="wp-caption aligncenter portrait-orientation"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="size-full wp-image-604754 portrait-orientation" src="https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/TSDSTTR_PA375.jpg" alt="STAR TREK: DEEP SPACE NINE, clockwise from top left: Rene Auberjonois, Colm Meaney, Cirroc Lofton, Avery Brooks, Nana Visitor, Alexander Siddig, Armin Shimerman, Terry Farrell, 1993-99." width="2237" height="3000" srcset="https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/TSDSTTR_PA375.jpg?quality=86&amp;strip=all 2237w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/TSDSTTR_PA375.jpg?resize=123%2C165&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 123w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/TSDSTTR_PA375.jpg?resize=224%2C300&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 224w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/TSDSTTR_PA375.jpg?resize=768%2C1030&amp;quality=40&amp;strip=all 768w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/TSDSTTR_PA375.jpg?resize=764%2C1024&amp;quality=40&amp;strip=all 764w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/TSDSTTR_PA375.jpg?resize=1145%2C1536&amp;quality=62&amp;strip=all 1145w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/TSDSTTR_PA375.jpg?resize=1527%2C2048&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 1527w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/TSDSTTR_PA375.jpg?resize=37%2C50&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 37w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/TSDSTTR_PA375.jpg?resize=298%2C400&amp;quality=43&amp;strip=all 298w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/TSDSTTR_PA375.jpg?resize=373%2C500&amp;quality=40&amp;strip=all 373w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/TSDSTTR_PA375.jpg?resize=447%2C600&amp;quality=40&amp;strip=all 447w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/TSDSTTR_PA375.jpg?resize=200%2C267&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 200w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/TSDSTTR_PA375.jpg?resize=128%2C172&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 128w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/TSDSTTR_PA375.jpg?resize=174%2C233&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 174w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/TSDSTTR_PA375.jpg?resize=264%2C354&amp;quality=43&amp;strip=all 264w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/TSDSTTR_PA375.jpg?resize=354%2C475&amp;quality=40&amp;strip=all 354w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/TSDSTTR_PA375.jpg?resize=400%2C536&amp;quality=40&amp;strip=all 400w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/02/TSDSTTR_PA375.jpg?resize=805%2C1080&amp;quality=40&amp;strip=all 805w" sizes="(max-width: 680px) calc(100vw - 60px), 660px"><figcaption><span class="figcaption-inner portrait-orientation"><span class="caption wp-caption-604754 portrait-orientation">STAR TREK: DEEP SPACE NINE, clockwise from top left: Rene Auberjonois, Colm Meaney, Cirroc Lofton, Avery Brooks, Nana Visitor, Alexander Siddig, Armin Shimerman, Terry Farrell, 1993-99.</span><br><span class="credit wp-credit-604754 portrait-orientation">©Paramount Television / Courtesy Everett Collection</span></span></figcaption></figure>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">After an uneven beginning, </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">The Next Generation</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> developed into one of television&rsquo;s most successful syndicated dramas, proving that Roddenberry&rsquo;s universe was bigger than its original characters. Its success led to </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Star Trek: Deep Space Nine</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> in 1993, which gradually embraced darker themes, serialized storytelling and political and religious complexity.&nbsp;</span></p>
<p><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Star Trek: Voyager</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> followed in 1995, introducing Kate Mulgrew&rsquo;s Kathryn Janeway as the franchise&rsquo;s first female captain in a starring role. At the same time, the original cast took its final bow together in 1991&rsquo;s </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country </span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">(which had followed the unsuccessful 1989 fifth film, </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">The Final Frontier</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">), while the </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Next Generation</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> crew moved into theaters with </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Generations</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> in 1994 and the enormously popular </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">First Contact</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> in 1996. The year also marked </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Star Trek&rsquo;s</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> 30th anniversary.&nbsp;</span></p>
<figure id="attachment_409715" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-409715" style="width: 1200px" class="wp-caption aligncenter portrait-orientation"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="size-full wp-image-409715 portrait-orientation" src="https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/star-trek-voyager_rLECXG.jpg" alt="The cast of Star Trek: Voyager in Season 1, 1995" width="1200" height="1760" srcset="https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/star-trek-voyager_rLECXG.jpg?quality=86&amp;strip=all 1200w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/star-trek-voyager_rLECXG.jpg?resize=113%2C165&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 113w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/star-trek-voyager_rLECXG.jpg?resize=205%2C300&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 205w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/star-trek-voyager_rLECXG.jpg?resize=768%2C1126&amp;quality=55&amp;strip=all 768w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/star-trek-voyager_rLECXG.jpg?resize=698%2C1024&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 698w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/star-trek-voyager_rLECXG.jpg?resize=1047%2C1536&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 1047w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/star-trek-voyager_rLECXG.jpg?resize=34%2C50&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 34w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/star-trek-voyager_rLECXG.jpg?resize=273%2C400&amp;quality=40&amp;strip=all 273w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/star-trek-voyager_rLECXG.jpg?resize=341%2C500&amp;quality=40&amp;strip=all 341w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/star-trek-voyager_rLECXG.jpg?resize=409%2C600&amp;quality=40&amp;strip=all 409w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/star-trek-voyager_rLECXG.jpg?resize=117%2C172&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 117w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/star-trek-voyager_rLECXG.jpg?resize=159%2C233&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 159w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/star-trek-voyager_rLECXG.jpg?resize=241%2C354&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 241w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/star-trek-voyager_rLECXG.jpg?resize=324%2C475&amp;quality=40&amp;strip=all 324w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/star-trek-voyager_rLECXG.jpg?resize=365%2C536&amp;quality=40&amp;strip=all 365w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/star-trek-voyager_rLECXG.jpg?resize=736%2C1080&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 736w" sizes="(max-width: 680px) calc(100vw - 60px), 660px"><figcaption><span class="figcaption-inner portrait-orientation"><span class="caption wp-caption-409715 portrait-orientation">The cast of Star Trek: Voyager in Season 1, 1995</span><br><span class="credit wp-credit-409715 portrait-orientation">©Paramount Pictures/courtesy MovieStillsDB.com</span></span></figcaption></figure>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">What had once been a cult phenomenon was now a television institution, with multiple series, feature films, bestselling novels, games, merchandise and conventions sustaining an enormous worldwide audience.</span></p>
<h3><b>1997&ndash;2006: Saturation, &lsquo;Enterprise&rsquo; and the End of an Era</b></h3>
<figure id="attachment_639269" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-639269" style="width: 2221px" class="wp-caption aligncenter portrait-orientation"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="size-full wp-image-639269 portrait-orientation" src="https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/09/star-trek-enterprise.jpg" alt="ENTERPRISE, (aka STAR TREK: ENTERPRISE), (Top, L-R) Connor Trinneer, Scott Bakula, Jolene Blalock, (Bottom, L-R), John Billingsley, Anthony Montgomery, Linda Park, Dominic Keating, (Season 3). 2001 - 2005. " width="2221" height="2220" srcset="https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/09/star-trek-enterprise.jpg?quality=86&amp;strip=all 2221w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/09/star-trek-enterprise.jpg?resize=165%2C165&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 165w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/09/star-trek-enterprise.jpg?resize=300%2C300&amp;quality=43&amp;strip=all 300w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/09/star-trek-enterprise.jpg?resize=768%2C768&amp;quality=40&amp;strip=all 768w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/09/star-trek-enterprise.jpg?resize=1024%2C1024&amp;quality=43&amp;strip=all 1024w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/09/star-trek-enterprise.jpg?resize=1536%2C1536&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 1536w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/09/star-trek-enterprise.jpg?resize=2048%2C2048&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 2048w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/09/star-trek-enterprise.jpg?resize=50%2C50&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 50w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/09/star-trek-enterprise.jpg?resize=100%2C100&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 100w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/09/star-trek-enterprise.jpg?resize=200%2C200&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 200w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/09/star-trek-enterprise.jpg?resize=400%2C400&amp;quality=40&amp;strip=all 400w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/09/star-trek-enterprise.jpg?resize=500%2C500&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 500w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/09/star-trek-enterprise.jpg?resize=600%2C600&amp;quality=40&amp;strip=all 600w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/09/star-trek-enterprise.jpg?resize=700%2C700&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 700w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/09/star-trek-enterprise.jpg?resize=172%2C172&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 172w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/09/star-trek-enterprise.jpg?resize=233%2C233&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 233w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/09/star-trek-enterprise.jpg?resize=354%2C354&amp;quality=40&amp;strip=all 354w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/09/star-trek-enterprise.jpg?resize=475%2C475&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 475w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/09/star-trek-enterprise.jpg?resize=536%2C536&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 536w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/09/star-trek-enterprise.jpg?resize=1080%2C1080&amp;quality=43&amp;strip=all 1080w" sizes="(max-width: 680px) calc(100vw - 60px), 660px"><figcaption><span class="figcaption-inner portrait-orientation"><span class="caption wp-caption-639269 portrait-orientation">ENTERPRISE, (aka STAR TREK: ENTERPRISE), (Top, L-R) Connor Trinneer, Scott Bakula, Jolene Blalock, (Bottom, L-R), John Billingsley, Anthony Montgomery, Linda Park, Dominic Keating (Season 3). 2001 &ndash; 2005.</span><br><span class="credit wp-credit-639269 portrait-orientation">(c) Paramount Pictures/ Courtesy: Everett Collection</span></span></figcaption></figure>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">By its fourth decade, </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Star Trek</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> faced a challenge that would have seemed impossible during the 1970s: there might actually be too much </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Star Trek</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">. </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Deep Space Nine</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> concluded its ambitious Dominion War storyline and ended in 1999, while </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Voyager</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> completed its seven-season journey in 2001. That same year brought </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Enterprise</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">, a prequel starring Scott Bakula as Jonathan Archer and set roughly a century before Kirk. Initially launched without </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Star Trek</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> in its title, the series attempted to give the franchise a fresh start but struggled with declining ratings and franchise fatigue.&nbsp;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">On the movie side, </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Star Trek: Insurrection</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> arrived in 1998, followed by </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Nemesis</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> in 2002, whose disappointing reception effectively ended the </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Next Generation</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> film series. </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Enterprise</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> was cancelled in 2005 after four seasons, marking the first time since 1987 that no new </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Star Trek</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> television series was in production.&nbsp;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">As the franchise celebrated its 40th anniversary in 2006, its future was uncertain. Yet history was repeating itself: just as </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Star Trek</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> had seemingly ended in 1969, another period of dormancy would ultimately provide the opportunity for reinvention.</span></p>
<h3><b>2007&ndash;2016: The Kelvin Timeline and a New Generation</b></h3>
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<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Paramount&rsquo;s solution was not to continue </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Star Trek</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> but to reboot it. Director J.J. Abrams&rsquo; 2009 film </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Star Trek</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> recast the original characters with Chris Pine as Kirk, Zachary Quinto as Spock and Karl Urban as McCoy, using time travel&mdash;and Leonard Nimoy&rsquo;s original Spock&mdash;to establish an alternate reality that eventually became known as the Kelvin Timeline. The movie was a major commercial success and introduced </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Star Trek</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> to viewers who had little connection to the previous series. That, according to Abrams, was the goal.</span></p>
<p>&ldquo;My whole take on it was that I needed a way in,&rdquo; he says. &ldquo;I was challenged by and excited about giving people who had no idea of what&nbsp;<em>Star Trek&nbsp;</em>was or had seen it felt a little bit like I did, that it was for&nbsp;<em>them&nbsp;</em>and not for me. To give&nbsp;<em>them&nbsp;</em>a way in. To make Kirk and Spock and the other characters as relatable and as informed or in process as possible. What I realized was that Kirk and Spock were the key, the heart of&nbsp;<em>Trek</em>. Approaching this movie, [screenwriters] Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci, [producers] Damon Lindelof and Bryan Burk, and I discovered <em>that&rsquo;s&nbsp;</em>what we wanted to examine and explore: what Kirk and Spock were all about.&rdquo;</p>

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<p><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Star Trek Into Darkness</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> followed in 2013, controversially reworking Khan, while 2016&rsquo;s </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Star Trek Beyond</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> arrived during the franchise&rsquo;s 50th anniversary and offered a story more closely reflecting the exploratory and humanistic spirit associated with the television series. Yet throughout this entire decade, </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Star Trek</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> remained absent from television.&nbsp;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Behind the scenes, that was beginning to change. CBS announced a new series that would ultimately become </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Star Trek: Discovery</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">, setting the stage for the franchise&rsquo;s largest television expansion since the 1990s.</span></p>
<h3><b>2017&ndash;2026: The Second Television Age and &lsquo;Star Trek&rsquo; at 60</b></h3>
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<p><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Star Trek: Discovery</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> premiered in 2017, ending a 12-year absence from television and launching an era dramatically different from the syndicated boom of the 1990s. Rather than relying on one or two long-running shows, </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Star Trek</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> expanded across streaming with series aimed at different audiences and employing different styles.&nbsp;</span></p>
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<p><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Short Treks</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> arrived in 2018, followed by </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Star Trek: Picard</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> in 2020, bringing Patrick Stewart back to the role; the animated comedy </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Lower Decks</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> that same year; the children&rsquo;s animated adventure </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Prodigy</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> in 2021; and </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Strange New Worlds</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> in 2022, with Anson Mount&rsquo;s Christopher Pike commanding the </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Enterprise</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">. </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Discovery</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> concluded in 2024 and </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Lower Decks</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> followed later that year, while the Michelle Yeoh television movie </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Section 31</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> arrived in 2025. The universe continued expanding with </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Starfleet Academy</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">, while </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Strange New Worlds</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> carried the</span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> Enterprise</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> toward the era of Kirk.<br>
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<p>Of&nbsp;<em>Discovery</em>, series star Sonequa Martin-Green, who portrayed Captain Michael Burnham, reflects to&nbsp;<em>Woman&rsquo;s World</em>, &ldquo;I hope that <em>Star Trek: Discovery</em> becomes an example of what it looks like to become. What we see with pretty much everything else in the <em>Star Trek</em> universe is people already being who they are&mdash;they are staple characters&mdash;but we know who they are from the beginning. What was so different with <em>Discovery</em> is that it was hyper-serialized. We 1,000% remembered what happened yesterday, carried it with us and we showed the fight it takes to have this utopian society. I appreciate that you see everyone falling forward and everyone becoming who they ultimately end up being.&rdquo;</p>
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<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">By September 2026, </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Star Trek</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> had reached its 60th anniversary</span><span style="font-weight: 400;">&nbsp;in a position almost unimaginable when NBC cancelled the original show: not merely as a television series or movie franchise, but as a mythology that has survived six decades by repeatedly changing its form while returning to essentially the same optimistic proposition&mdash;that humanity can overcome its divisions, venture into the unknown and become something better.</span></p>
<p>&ldquo;<em>Star Trek</em>,&rdquo; points out author and&nbsp;<em>Trek&nbsp;</em>historian Robert Greenberger, &ldquo;works best when it comments on today&rsquo;s issues and provides hope that mankind will not only endure but thrive. We needed that message 60 years ago and boy, do we need that today.&rdquo;</p>
<p>And the journey is far from over. A new feature film is being developed by Paramount Pictures while there are rumblings of yet another television revival on the horizon,&nbsp;<em>and&nbsp;</em>the impact of the original series is being dissected and explored in the new documentary,&nbsp;<em>The Sixty-Year Mission: How Star Trek Changed Television and the World</em>. To commemorate&nbsp;<em>Star Trek&nbsp;</em>Day (September 8), tickets are on sale now exclusively for Regal Cinemas, and the film itself opens on October 9 (go to <a href="https://www.regmovies.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Regal Cinemas</a> or <a href="https://trek60.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">trek60.com</a>).</p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">&ldquo;We invite fans to boldly go to Regal Cinemas this October 9th to experience the ultimate <em>Star Trek</em> documentary event,&rdquo; says Executive Producer Michael S. Broder. &ldquo;This is a chance to see the definitive chronicle of the making of <em>Star Trek</em> with fans and friends from across the galaxy, featuring the stars who made it an iconic and beloved franchise.&rdquo;</span></p>

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		<title>Mary Trump on How ‘Star Trek’ Became Her Childhood Safe Space</title>
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<?xml encoding="utf-8" ?><html><body><p><span style="font-weight: 400;">For <a href="https://www.simonandschuster.com/authors/Mary-L-Trump/167249034" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Mary Trump</a>, more than being just a regular television show, the original </span><a href="https://www.womansworld.com/tag/star-trek" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Star Trek </span></i></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">offered something of an escape. It also opened her imagination to <a href="https://www.womansworld.com/tag/sci-fi" target="_blank" rel="noopener">science fiction</a>, space exploration and worlds radically different from her own. Growing up in the Trump family, it also provided something considerably more important: an alternative set of values.&nbsp;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Trump, psychologist, author, political activist, co-host of the&nbsp;<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@MaryTrumpMedia" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><em>Trek Politics&nbsp;</em>podcast</a> and niece of the President Donald Trump, discovered </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Star Trek</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> as a child when reruns began airing on New York&rsquo;s WPIX Channel 11. Speaking to </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Woman&rsquo;s World </span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">at a recent convention celebrating the franchise&rsquo;s 60th anniversary, she recalled being immediately drawn into <a href="https://www.womansworld.com/entertainment/classic-tv/how-gene-roddenberrys-andromeda-connects-to-star-trek" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Gene Roddenberry</a>&lsquo;s vision of the future, while admitting that at that age she couldn&rsquo;t possibly have understood </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">why</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> it affected her so deeply.</span></p>
<p><b>MARY TRUMP:</b><span style="font-weight: 400;"> &ldquo;I don&rsquo;t remember whose idea it was to start watching it, but it became my favorite thing very quickly. The world building, the relationships between the characters, the stories, obviously the space exploration and just the sense of hopefulness. Also, quite frankly, it was a bit of an escape, because life could be difficult sometimes. To understand at so young an age that these worlds can be created and inhabited that are so different from your own lived experience was extremely powerful to me, even though I&rsquo;m guessing I wasn&rsquo;t conscious of it in that way.&rdquo;</span></p><body><div id="gist-answers-widget" class="gist-answers-widget">
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<h2><b>More than Kirk, Spock and McCoy</b></h2>
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<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">What fascinated Trump wasn&rsquo;t merely the <em>Enterprise</em> or the prospect of traveling among the stars. She responded to the relationships between the characters and, ultimately, the philosophy underlying them. Looking back, she believes </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Star Trek</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> introduced her to the possibility that encountering people different from ourselves should inspire curiosity rather than fear.</span></p>
<p><b>MARY TRUMP:</b><span style="font-weight: 400;"> &ldquo;I loved the characters individually, but it was more the ways in which they interacted and that their friendships deepened over time. We got more and more insight into how they came to be friends and crew members. There&rsquo;s also the spirit of exploration; the ethos of wanting to build relationships with people, species, what have you, that are different from us, and leading with the desire to understand and challenge ourselves to be better and not make judgments. </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Not </span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">be so human-centric that we always go in thinking we&rsquo;re right about everything and everybody else must bend to our way of interpreting things. That sense of possibility was one of the things that spoke most deeply to me about that show.&rdquo;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">&ldquo;It&rsquo;s had a huge influence on my life, especially early on, because I came from a problematic family [</span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">laughs</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">]. I came from a family in which the so-called values were completely antithetical to who I wanted to be&mdash;not that I recognized that in any obvious way until I was much older. But to have this group of people, week after week, exemplifying the kinds of values that really resonated with me &mdash; even when they got it wrong, even when they messed up, even when they did things that were morally suspect on occasion, they still were coming from a place of real moral rectitude and ethics and striving to do better, be better.&rdquo;</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">&ldquo;So it served for me as a safe space in a way. And it allowed me to hang on to the hope that there was more outside of the system in which I was being raised. I don&rsquo;t think I can overstate the importance or the influence the original series had on me.&rdquo;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">It also sent Trump toward science fiction. Until roughly the age of 12, she says, the genre dominated her reading, including Isaac Asimov, Ray Bradbury and Robert Heinlein. But </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Star Trek</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> remained different. And one character really stood out.</span></p>

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<p><b>MARY TRUMP:</b><span style="font-weight: 400;"> &ldquo;There was definitely the escape part of that, for sure. Just imagining a cleaner, clearer future that made sense, where we figured out all sorts of things. But </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Star Trek</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> was unique in that it also created this foundation of, as I said earlier, values that were relevant even if largely absent in my life, but that I knew could actually be something that I created for myself later.&rdquo;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">&ldquo;</span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Star Trek</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> was the very first and maybe only time in my life one character sort of became a role model&mdash;again, without my knowing that, because I wouldn&rsquo;t have known what that was. But Nichelle Nichols was such a badass as Uhura. That was a character that became so important to me. I always wanted those characters, that world, that universe to be part of my life.&rdquo;</span></p>
<h2><b>Why &lsquo;</b><b>Star Trek&rsquo;</b><b> is still significant</b></h2>
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<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Sixty years after the original series premiered, Trump believes the longevity of </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Star Trek</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> comes largely from the fact that its optimism was never simply about imagining cool technology. The franchise challenged audiences to imagine better human beings. She also believes it could only have originated when it did, amid the cultural and political upheaval of the 1960s.</span></p>
<p><b>MARY TRUMP:</b><span style="font-weight: 400;"> &ldquo;There was this spirit of rebelling, and there was a real point at which we were trying to figure out how to challenge our assumptions about things and recognizing how dangerous it was for us as a country not to do better.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">&ldquo;Whether we&rsquo;re talking about the protests around the Vietnam War, whether we&rsquo;re talking about civil rights and voting rights and women&rsquo;s rights, there was a real urgency to broadening our ideas about how to include people, how to achieve equality.&rdquo;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">That tradition, Trump argues, makes complaints that contemporary </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Star Trek</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> has somehow become &ldquo;too woke&rdquo; particularly strange.</span></p>
<figure id="attachment_609538" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-609538" style="width: 2400px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="size-full wp-image-609538" src="https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/TSDSTTR_PA005.jpg" alt="STAR TREK, Leonard Nimoy, William Shatner, 1966-1969" width="2400" height="1609" srcset="https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/TSDSTTR_PA005.jpg?quality=86&amp;strip=all 2400w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/TSDSTTR_PA005.jpg?resize=246%2C165&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 246w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/TSDSTTR_PA005.jpg?resize=300%2C201&amp;quality=81&amp;strip=all 300w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/TSDSTTR_PA005.jpg?resize=768%2C515&amp;quality=81&amp;strip=all 768w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/TSDSTTR_PA005.jpg?resize=1024%2C687&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 1024w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/TSDSTTR_PA005.jpg?resize=1536%2C1030&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 1536w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/TSDSTTR_PA005.jpg?resize=2048%2C1373&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 2048w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/TSDSTTR_PA005.jpg?resize=50%2C34&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 50w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/TSDSTTR_PA005.jpg?resize=400%2C268&amp;quality=71&amp;strip=all 400w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/TSDSTTR_PA005.jpg?resize=500%2C335&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 500w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/TSDSTTR_PA005.jpg?resize=600%2C402&amp;quality=62&amp;strip=all 600w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/TSDSTTR_PA005.jpg?resize=270%2C180&amp;quality=81&amp;strip=all 270w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/TSDSTTR_PA005.jpg?resize=257%2C172&amp;quality=81&amp;strip=all 257w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/TSDSTTR_PA005.jpg?resize=348%2C233&amp;quality=81&amp;strip=all 348w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/TSDSTTR_PA005.jpg?resize=528%2C354&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 528w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/TSDSTTR_PA005.jpg?resize=709%2C475&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 709w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/TSDSTTR_PA005.jpg?resize=800%2C536&amp;quality=81&amp;strip=all 800w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/TSDSTTR_PA005.jpg?resize=1611%2C1080&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 1611w" sizes="(max-width: 680px) calc(100vw - 60px), 660px"><figcaption><span class="figcaption-inner"><span class="caption wp-caption-609538">STAR TREK, Leonard Nimoy, William Shatner, 1966-1969</span><br><span class="credit wp-credit-609538">Courtesy the Everett Collection</span></span></figcaption></figure>
<p><b>MARY TRUMP:</b><span style="font-weight: 400;"> &ldquo;It&rsquo;s absurd to say it&rsquo;s too woke. I think you could point to instances in which there&rsquo;s a sort of self-consciousness about inclusion that feels a little heavy-handed, but there&rsquo;s nothing more woke than&hellip; if we&rsquo;re even using that term, it&rsquo;s a good thing to be woke and awake and paying attention and a decent ethical human being&mdash;just watch the original series.&rdquo;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">That doesn&rsquo;t mean she embraces every creative choice the franchise has made. Her second favorite </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Star Trek</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> series, after the original, is </span><a href="https://www.womansworld.com/entertainment/classic-tv/the-moment-avery-brooks-changed-star-trek-deep-space-nine-forever" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Deep Space Nine</span></i></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">, precisely because it expanded Roddenberry&rsquo;s universe without simply duplicating what had worked before.</span></p>
<p><b>MARY TRUMP:</b><span style="font-weight: 400;"> &ldquo;I think </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">DS9</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> is some of the most brilliant world-building I&rsquo;ve ever seen. And it still stays true to the spirit of the original. I think that&rsquo;s where some mistakes are made. It&rsquo;s the spirit we need to stay true to, not the formula.&rdquo;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">For Trump, </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Deep Space Nine</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> also demonstrated how fragile political relationships can be, exploring shifting alliances, cultural differences, religion, economics and the consequences of placing power in the wrong hands. Yet there&rsquo;s another element of </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Star Trek</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> that she believes has become almost radical in contemporary entertainment: its willingness to stop the action and allow intelligent people to talk.</span></p>
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<p><b>MARY TRUMP:</b><span style="font-weight: 400;"> &ldquo;The willingness </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Star Trek</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> continues to have to have conversations, to be philosophical, to take time, not always to make it driven by the fighting or the drama, but literally just letting two characters sit in a room and talk it out, or be in a courtroom and have people making a case for something&mdash;that philosophical, thoughtful, relationship-driven interiority of </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Star Trek</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> is what I think continues to be one of the most profound things about it.&rdquo;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">&ldquo;I think it&rsquo;s even more daring to do that now because people are so much less patient. People have such short attention spans, so trusting the viewer to be willing to watch a five-minute or 10-minute conversation about deep philosophical issues without phaser fights and transporters and chaos and life-threatening disasters&mdash;it continues to be the thing I most love about </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Star Trek</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">.&rdquo;</span></p>
<h2><b>Holding on to the future</b></h2>
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<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Which brings Trump back to the reason thousands of people would gather six decades after the </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Enterprise</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> first left Earth to celebrate a television series whose future still hasn&rsquo;t arrived. Perhaps the point isn&rsquo;t whether Roddenberry&rsquo;s vision accurately predicted what humanity would become, but rather that </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Star Trek</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> continues asking audiences to believe humanity is capable of becoming it.</span></p>
<p><b>MARY TRUMP:</b><span style="font-weight: 400;"> &ldquo;It is so aspirational. It is a realistic, deeply human&mdash;no offense to Spock&mdash; exploration of the ways in which we evolve emotionally, psychologically, in which we can be more open-minded, in which we can challenge our own assumptions without worrying about somehow risking our egos or worrying about being wrong. And it shows us in ways that are narratively powerful that it is possible to be better versions of ourselves. It is possible to have a better version of our society.&rdquo;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Trump acknowledges that, from her perspective, today&rsquo;s world can make that future seem more distant rather than closer. Yet that&rsquo;s precisely why she believes </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Star Trek</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> remains important.</span></p>

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<p><b>MARY TRUMP:</b><span style="font-weight: 400;"> &ldquo;I think it&rsquo;s in those moments of struggle where people actually begin to understand there is the most potential. There&rsquo;s nothing about </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Star Trek</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> that puts it outside the realm of our ability to imagine for ourselves. And that continues to be one of the most powerful reasons people stay connected to the original series, yes, but also the entire </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Star Trek</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> universe and believe that it&rsquo;s possible.&rdquo;</span></p>
<h2 class="PDq2pG_selectionAnchorContainer" data-section-id="h84szp" data-start="67" data-end="101">Get to know Mary Trump, President Trump&rsquo;s niece</h2>
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<ul data-start="103" data-end="1551" data-is-last-node="" data-is-only-node="">
<li data-section-id="1vghox3" data-start="103" data-end="134"><strong data-start="105" data-end="119">Full name:</strong> Mary Lea Trump</li>
<li data-section-id="17k0i7x" data-start="135" data-end="176"><strong data-start="137" data-end="146">Born:</strong> May 3, 1965, in New York City</li>
<li data-section-id="e6vuyk" data-start="177" data-end="381"><strong data-start="179" data-end="190">Family:</strong> Mary L. Trump is the daughter of Fred Trump Jr., the older brother of Donald Trump, making the president her uncle. Her older brother is Fred Trump III.</li>
<li data-section-id="2lesw1" data-start="382" data-end="575"><strong data-start="384" data-end="395">Father:</strong> Fred Trump Jr. was a commercial airline pilot who died of a heart attack at age 42 after struggling with alcoholism. Mary was 16 at the time.</li>
<li data-section-id="1n7colw" data-start="576" data-end="831"><strong data-start="578" data-end="592">Education:</strong> She studied English literature at Tufts University, earned a master&rsquo;s in English literature from Columbia University and received a Ph.D. in clinical psychology from Adelphi University on Long Island.</li>
<li data-section-id="1s7ngqg" data-start="832" data-end="1001"><strong data-start="834" data-end="845">Career:</strong> Trump has taught graduate courses in psychology, worked as a life coach and founded the Trump Coaching Group in 2012.</li>
<li data-section-id="5ziviz" data-start="1002" data-end="1286"><strong data-start="1004" data-end="1027">Bestselling author:</strong> Her books include <em data-start="1046" data-end="1127">Too Much and Never Enough: How My Family Created the World&rsquo;s Most Dangerous Man</em>, <em data-start="1129" data-end="1144" data-is-only-node="">The Reckoning</em> and <em data-start="1149" data-end="1174">Who Could Ever Love You</em>. Her first book sold nearly a million copies on its first day of release.</li>
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		<title>'I Love Lucy' at 75: Inside the Sitcom's Remarkable TV Legacy</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Nearly 75 years after Lucy Ricardo first arrived before television viewers on October 15, 1951, I Love Lucy is making history again as the Television Academy has designated the show to be the first recipient of the newly-created Legacy Award. To be presented during the 78th Emmy Awards, it&#8217;s designed to recognize programs that have [&#8230;]]]></description>
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<?xml encoding="utf-8" ?><html><body><p class="isSelectedEnd">Nearly 75 years after Lucy Ricardo first arrived before television viewers on October 15, 1951, <a href="https://www.womansworld.com/tag/i-love-lucy" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><em>I Love Lucy </em></a>is making history again as the Television Academy has designated the show to be the first recipient of the newly-created Legacy Award. To be presented during the 78th Emmy Awards, it&rsquo;s designed to recognize programs that have made a profound and lasting impact on television and culture.</p>
<p class="isSelectedEnd">So, why this show above all others?&nbsp;Pop culture historian Geoffrey Mark, who has spent decades studying <em>I Love Lucy</em>, Lucille Ball, <a href="https://www.womansworld.com/entertainment/classic-tv/how-desi-arnaz-changed-tv-forever-with-i-love-lucy-exclusive" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Desi Arnaz</a> and the people responsible for bringing the series to life, and is the author of <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Lucy-Book-Complete-Decades-Television/dp/1580630510/ref=sr_1_1?channelId=500&amp;clpRedir=Y&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.aFQgG1aFontER0j5jFIOSq6I7bhQd20sRxirTsxKMACucYhxNNJ7sDxNJgO_ZqePbk_FQyyN6nQ86JHZpMabOMx03f9IJWEpBU-_rLfoTf3B6s6WkzyVRPpAsowfc228DkshR3bv78SGvkNy6afilpk3z8K3slaQxvWMe-ggAznP49ch80DMrICboHvP-hq9-nEVJ-IYBcn-2zajilRztGknSd7ZprAKevqWpWzeDIF7encZnJ8Rcrmb8y4Lpip0Ggiv6jNjyrQUdHK6aCc37nQfPisb9ikTK-_WEkgAdSY.u6LfH2wKXHHeIe1Pod4C0Fee7DCSVVoKi9-4X_kgybU&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=lucy+book&amp;plpRedirect=mhFallback&amp;qid=1788014214&amp;sr=8-1" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><em>The Lucy Book: A Complete Guide to Her Five Decades on Television</em></a>, doesn&rsquo;t hesitate.</p>
<p class="isSelectedEnd"><strong>GEOFFREY MARK:</strong> &ldquo;<em>I Love Lucy</em> deserves to get the first Legacy Award because everything we think of in terms of a sitcom really started with it. There really weren&rsquo;t sitcoms before <em>I Love Lucy</em>. There were comedy programs that had some kind of a plot, like <a href="https://www.womansworld.com/entertainment/classic-tv/how-jack-benny-helped-invent-the-sitcom-memories-from-his-daughter" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Jack Benny</a>, like Burns and Allen, but they could just as easily break into song and dance or not have a plot that week. The <em>Goldbergs</em> and <em>Mama</em> were basically soap operas that had humor in them, but could have very serious subjects through weeks where there wasn&rsquo;t a laugh to be found. There were some live things that tried to be funny, but they were very low quality and, except for kinescopes, lost to time. None of those things really contributed to what we think of as the sitcom. So <em>I Love Lucy</em> is the first and the best.&rdquo;</p><body><div id="gist-answers-widget" class="gist-answers-widget">
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<h2>Creating a sitcom blueprint</h2>
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<p class="isSelectedEnd">There had, of course, been television situation comedies before <em>I Love Lucy</em>, just as multiple-camera television production wasn&rsquo;t invented by Arnaz and company. What <em>Lucy</em> did was bring together elements in a way that helped establish a production model that would influence generations of sitcoms. Mark is very specific about what the show&rsquo;s achievement was.</p>
<p class="isSelectedEnd"><strong>GEOFFREY MARK:</strong> &ldquo;<em>I Love Lucy</em> was the very first situation comedy shot on film with three cameras in front of a live audience. There was plenty of television being shot on 35 millimeter film.&rdquo;</p>
<p class="isSelectedEnd">One of the great ironies of the <em>I Love Lucy</em> story is that the repeatability that ultimately helped introduce the show to generations of viewers wasn&rsquo;t initially some elaborate business strategy, but it became particularly important because <a href="https://www.womansworld.com/entertainment/classic-tv/lucille-ball-tv-shows-and-specials-behind-the-scenes-stories" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Lucille Ball</a> was having a baby.</p>

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<p class="isSelectedEnd"><strong>GEOFFREY MARK:</strong> &ldquo;They invented the rerun out of need. When Ms. Ball got pregnant and they wanted to show the pregnancy, there were only so many weeks they had to film episodes before she would give birth. To pad out the second season, they had to rerun, because they had no other option, an episode. And the joke in the moment was, &lsquo;Who would want to watch a rebroadcast of an <em>I Love Lucy</em> episode?&rsquo; The dumbest question ever asked by anybody in show business.&rdquo;</p>
<p class="isSelectedEnd">While repeats of television programming weren&rsquo;t literally invented by <em>I Love Lucy</em>, the series became instrumental in demonstrating the extraordinary value of filmed television that audiences were willing to watch more than once. Mark also draws a distinction between those early network repeats and the later syndication business that has kept <em>I Love Lucy</em> on television ever since its original run.</p>
<p class="isSelectedEnd"><strong>GEOFFREY MARK:</strong> &ldquo;The syndication economy is not really Lucille and Desi. That was CBS creating Viacom. To buy RKO Studios and physically have Desilu Studios as opposed to Desilu Productions, Lucille and Desi sold back to CBS the rights to <em>I Love Lucy,&nbsp;</em>which they had owned.</p>
<p class="isSelectedEnd">Even the version of the series generations came to know in reruns wasn&rsquo;t exactly what viewers had originally seen.</p>
<h2>Where did the famous &lsquo;I Love Lucy&rsquo; heart opening come from?</h2>
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<p class="isSelectedEnd">Turn on an episode of <em>I Love Lucy</em> today and one of the most instantly recognizable images is that familiar heart containing the show&rsquo;s title, but that&rsquo;s not how most episodes originally began.</p>
<p class="isSelectedEnd"><strong>GEOFFREY MARK:</strong> &ldquo;<em>I Love Lucy</em> becomes this enormous phenomenon and Canada wants it and England wants it and other countries want it. The original openings of the <em>I Love Lucy</em> shows was not the heart as we watch it today. It was little cartoon caricatures of Ms. Ball and Mr. Arnaz dancing around, walking around, interacting with whoever the sponsor was that week&mdash;for the first four seasons, Philip Morris. Well, when it showed in Canada, when it showed in England, Philip Morris was not the sponsor. So they had to make a generic opening and closing that would remove any indication of sponsor, and that is the version that was shown elsewhere. The heart&mdash;the thing that we know now.&rdquo;</p>
<p class="isSelectedEnd">The familiar heart opening subsequently became associated with CBS daytime repeats and, eventually, the syndicated version of the series. And <em>Lucy</em> just kept finding new homes.</p>
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<p class="isSelectedEnd"><strong>GEOFFREY MARK:</strong> &ldquo;Then <em>I Love Lucy</em> went into cable and became part of Nick at Nite. And for Nick at Nite, Dann Cahn, who was the original editor of the show, made brand new openings for the show using the original cartoons, taking out the cigarette packs or the little home permanent stuff and putting in a TV Land icon instead.&rdquo;</p>
<h2>Lucy Ricardo Is Having a Baby</h2>
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<p class="isSelectedEnd">If the mechanics of television were changing around <em>I Love Lucy</em>, so were some of the things that the medium was willing to talk about (and bear in mind that America wasn&rsquo;t allowed to hear the sound of a toilet flushing until 20 years after <em>Lucy</em>&lsquo;s debut, in that case on an episode of <em>All in the Family</em>). Few examples are more famous than Lucille Ball&rsquo;s pregnancy being incorporated into the series.</p>
<p class="isSelectedEnd">It wasn&rsquo;t literally the first pregnancy depicted on television, something Mark himself points out, but there was a considerable difference between an obscure precedent and having one of the most famous women in America visibly pregnant on the country&rsquo;s most popular television program.</p>
<p class="isSelectedEnd"><strong>GEOFFREY MARK:</strong> &ldquo;It is not the very first. There was a sitcom in the late &rsquo;40s where the female star got pregnant, but six people saw it. So <em>I Love Lucy</em>, in being honest about Ms. Ball&rsquo;s pregnancy and therefore Lucy Ricardo&rsquo;s pregnancy, opened up a national dialogue about women having children. Previous to this, in polite society, women, once they got big with child, they didn&rsquo;t even leave the house. Never mind tried to be attractive. There&rsquo;s one episode where Ethel tells Ricky to take Lucy dancing and he said, &lsquo;That&rsquo;s appropriate?&rsquo; She says, &lsquo;Yes. Why not?&rsquo; Pregnancy wasn&rsquo;t an illness and the idea of a woman being pregnant is not dirty.&rdquo;</p>

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<p class="isSelectedEnd">The series could depict a pregnant Lucy Ricardo, but what it couldn&rsquo;t do was actually call her pregnant.</p>
<p class="isSelectedEnd"><strong>GEOFFREY MARK:</strong> &ldquo;They could not use the word &lsquo;pregnant.&rsquo; She was &lsquo;with child.&rsquo; She was infanticipating. She was going to be a mother. She was having a baby, but you couldn&rsquo;t use the word pregnant because that implied a man impregnating. And the other thing that happened is one week they sleep in a giant king-sized bed together. She gets pregnant&mdash; va-voom&mdash;twin beds, so that you never ever think how that might&rsquo;ve happened. They even brought in a priest, a rabbi and a minister to vet every script they did, and not one word was changed except &lsquo;pregnant.&rsquo;&rdquo;</p>
<p class="isSelectedEnd">The religious advisers and avoidance of the word &ldquo;pregnant&rdquo; are part of the documented history of the storyline, which culminated in &ldquo;Lucy Goes to the Hospital&rdquo; on Jan. 19, 1953. An estimated 44 million viewers watched Lucy Ricardo give birth to Little Ricky&mdash;an extraordinary demonstration of just how deeply the Ricardos had become part of American life.</p>
<h2>First, CBS Had to Accept Ricky Ricardo</h2>
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<p class="isSelectedEnd">There was another cultural barrier <em>I Love Lucy</em> had confronted before the series even premiered. CBS had wanted Lucille Ball on television following the success of her radio series <em>My Favorite Husband</em>, butBall wanted something in return: Desi Arnaz playing her on-screen husband. That, unfortunately, wasn&rsquo;t what CBS had in mind.</p>
<p class="isSelectedEnd"><strong>GEOFFREY MARK:</strong> &ldquo;CBS came to her, Jack Benny and George Burns and Gracie Allen, and wanted them to bring their radio sitcoms to television. Lucille was making an enormous amount of money on radio and having hit movies. Despite what history says, her movie career was not over at all. She didn&rsquo;t need television, but she needed to have a marriage. Lucille and Desi thought if they could work together on television, he could get off the road with his band and stay at home. She&rsquo;d have a regular schedule where she wouldn&rsquo;t need to work crazy hours in movies, and their home life would be happier. And CBS said, &lsquo;Not a chance. CBS will not have a mixed marriage on television or radio for that matter.&rsquo;&rdquo;</p>
<p class="isSelectedEnd">Ball and Arnaz decided to prove that audiences would accept them together.</p>
<p class="isSelectedEnd"><strong>GEOFFREY MARK:</strong> &ldquo;Lucille and Desi put together a vaudeville show, some of which ends up on <em>I Love Lucy</em>&mdash;the &lsquo;Cuban Pete&rsquo; number and him singing and them doing stuff together. They only did three or four cities because she got pregnant again, but CBS saw that the audiences loved them and did not mind. They actually kind of liked that he was different.&rdquo;</p>
<p class="isSelectedEnd">And once <em>I Love Lucy</em> went on the air, Mark says something fascinating happened. Beyond merely accepting Ricky Ricardo, the audience&nbsp;became protective of him.</p>
<p class="isSelectedEnd"><strong>GEOFFREY MARK:</strong> &ldquo;It&rsquo;s very interesting, the jokes on the show. Only Lucy Ricardo could make fun of Ricky and get a laugh. If Fred and Ethel or other people tried to make fun of his accent or not speaking English properly, audiences didn&rsquo;t like them. They did try it. And, I mean, it got titters. It didn&rsquo;t get big laughs, but you could feel the audience didn&rsquo;t likeit. &lsquo;Wait a minute, we love Ricky. How dare you make fun of him? Lucy? Oh, she&rsquo;s his wife. She&rsquo;s allowed to do that.&rsquo;&rdquo;</p>
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<p class="isSelectedEnd">The show&rsquo;s enormous success ultimately allowed Ball and Arnaz to make an impact that stretched far beyond the Ricardos. It helped build Desilu.</p>
<p class="isSelectedEnd"><strong>GEOFFREY MARK:</strong> &ldquo;<em>I Love Lucy</em> is one of the very few shows in history that allowed its owners to become not just big-time producers of other shows, but to actually own, physically own, a studio. When Lucille Ball and Desi Arnaz bought RKO, which included the Selznick studio in Culver City, and they already owned a piece of another studio down the street from RKO, they became the largest film studio in the world.&rdquo;</p>
<p class="isSelectedEnd">Its eventual legacy would encompass much more than <em>Lucy</em>, with Desilu playing a crucial role in the history of such series as <em>The Untouchables</em>, <em>Mission: Impossible</em> and <a href="https://www.womansworld.com/tag/star-trek" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><em>Star Trek</em></a>.</p>
<h2>Taking Lucy Out of the Apartment</h2>
<p class="isSelectedEnd">Mark sees another <em>I Love Lucy</em> strength in something considerably less technical: The people making the show weren&rsquo;t afraid to change its surroundings. Whether <em>I Love Lucy</em> was literally the first sitcom to do this is difficult to establish, but Mark views the decision as another important part of its creative legacy.</p>
<p class="isSelectedEnd"><strong>GEOFFREY MARK:</strong> &ldquo;<em>I Love Lucy</em> was the first sitcom to take the main characters and have them travel, to break up what could be monotony or the repeating of jokes. They went all over Europe. They went to Cuba. They went to Florida. They went to California. They moved eventually to Connecticut. And even in the hour-long shows, they were traveling to Las Vegas, they were traveling here, they were in Sun Valley, they were in New Mexico, so that the show never got stale. Other people have done it since, having the family or the main characters move from one apartment to another or one home to another or redecorate the home or move them to a different place. <em>I Love Lucy</em> started that.&rdquo;</p>
<p class="isSelectedEnd">The show&rsquo;s impact could also be found in what people wore and how they decorated their homes. <em>I Love Lucy</em>-connected merchandise included furniture promoted to consumers who wanted to bring a little bit of the Ricardos into their own homes.</p>
<p class="isSelectedEnd"><strong>GEOFFREY MARK:</strong> &ldquo;<em>I Love Lucy</em> is the first sitcom that affected the fashion world. The clothing worn by Ms. Ball and Mr. Arnaz were not only copied by other people, it became high fashion, but were actually sold with a tag line like, &lsquo;Dress Like Ricky!&rsquo;</p>
<h2>So why are we still watching?</h2>
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<p class="isSelectedEnd">Technical accomplishments, social breakthroughs and business innovations explain why <em>I Love Lucy</em> deserves an important chapter in television history. But they don&rsquo;t explain why a 75-year-old black-and-white sitcom remains funny to people with no memory whatsoever of Lucille Ball and Desi Arnaz when the show was originally broadcast. For Mark, that&rsquo;s the real secret of <em>I Love Lucy</em>.</p>
<p class="isSelectedEnd"><strong>GEOFFREY MARK:</strong> &ldquo;The reason it&rsquo;s legendary is that young people today will not watch black-and-white television, but they <em>will</em> watch <em>Lucy</em>. There&rsquo;s supposedly a cultural generation about every 12 years, and since the very first episode has been put on, every generation that has come along has taken <em>I Love Lucy</em> to its heart and loved it. We watch the show because 100 of the most talented people in show business got together to make this show happen. Every department had brilliant people working in it. We watched the show because Jess Oppenheimer, who created the show and was the head writer, was a genius. And he needs to be mentioned.&rdquo;</p>
<p class="isSelectedEnd">&ldquo;I also think <em>I Love Lucy</em> is a hallmark of friendship. Lucy and Ricky and Fred and Ethel as two couples are devoted to each other, to the exclusion of family and other relatives and other friends. <em>I Love Lucy</em> illustrates how easy it is to get angry at someone you love, how easy it is to be petty, how easy it is to get jealous, how easy it is to misunderstand someone else, but then it shows that because of the love, it shows forgiveness, which is a moral lesson most sitcoms don&rsquo;t go anywhere near.&rdquo;</p>
<p class="isSelectedEnd">That gets to something that can&rsquo;t be measured by ratings, awards or television firsts.</p>
<p class="isSelectedEnd"><strong>GEOFFREY MARK:</strong> &ldquo;I&rsquo;ve been asked this question 97 billion times: Why do we watch <em>I Love Lucy</em>? What is it? There is a warmth between the characters that seems to go beyond the writing and direction. Those four human beings were able to put into their characters a likability and a warmth that, had these characters been peopled by lesser actors, we wouldn&rsquo;t have cared about the show. We wouldn&rsquo;t have watched the show. It would&rsquo;ve lasted six months and that would&rsquo;ve been the end of that.&rdquo;</p>

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		<title>Shelley Fabares Remembered: The ‘Donna Reed Show’ Star Turned Baby Boomer Icon</title>
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<?xml encoding="utf-8" ?><html><body><p><span style="font-weight: 400;">There are stars remembered for a particular movie or television series, others for a hit song and still others because they somehow came to embody a moment in American culture. Shelley Fabares, who died August 22 at the age of 82 following a brief illness, managed to do all three.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">For one generation, she will forever be Mary Stone, the pretty and popular teenage daughter of Donna and Alex Stone on <a href="https://www.womansworld.com/entertainment/classic-tv/donna-reed-show-cast" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><i>The Donna Reed Show</i></a></span><span style="font-weight: 400;">. For another, she&rsquo;s the young woman whose recording of &ldquo;Johnny Angel&rdquo; unexpectedly went all the way to No. 1. Movie fans remember her as Elvis Presley&rsquo;s leading lady&mdash;not once, but three times&mdash;while viewers who came along decades later may know her best as Christine Armstrong, the smart, independent television anchor who fell in love with Craig T. Nelson&rsquo;s Hayden Fox on </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Coach</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Yet pop culture historian Geoffrey Mark believes understanding Fabares&rsquo; appeal requires going back to the beginning and recognizing what she represented to the generation that grew up watching her. Mark met Fabares through his longtime friendship with her </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Donna Reed Show</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> brother, Paul Petersen, and knew her aunt, actress and musical comedy legend Nanette Fabray, very well. More importantly for purposes of remembering Fabares today, he understood the place she occupied in the culture.</span></p><body><div id="gist-answers-widget" class="gist-answers-widget">
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<p><b>GEOFFREY MARK:</b><span style="font-weight: 400;"> &ldquo;Shelley Fabares was to Baby Boomer TV what Ricky Nelson was to Baby Boomer TV. She was the female embodiment of what Hollywood was selling the suburban, pretty teenage girl should be, the same way they sold Ricky as the embodiment of all that was good about teenage boyhood and young manhood.&rdquo;</span></p>
<h2><b>Growing up in Hollywood</b></h2>
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<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Born Michele Ann Marie Fabares on January 19, 1944, in Santa Monica, California, Shelley was hardly a newcomer when </span><a href="https://www.womansworld.com/entertainment/classic-tv/donna-reed-show-cast" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">The Donna Reed Show</span></i></a><span style="font-weight: 400;"> turned her into one of America&rsquo;s best-known teenagers. She had begun acting as a child, appearing on television and in films throughout the 1950s like </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">The Bad Seed</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">, </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Never Say Goodbye</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">, </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Jeanne Eagels</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> and </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Marjorie Morningstar</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">, as well as a televised production of </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Our Town</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> featuring Frank Sinatra, Paul Newman and Eva Marie Saint. There was also Disney&rsquo;s </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Annette</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">, which teamed her with another young performer destined to become an icon of teenage America, <a href="https://www.womansworld.com/entertainment/celebrities/annette-funicello-from-mickey-mouse-club-to-movie-icon" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Annette Funicello</a>. But it was </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">The Donna Reed Show</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">, which premiered in 1958, that changed everything.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">At 14, Fabares became Mary Stone, older sister to Petersen&rsquo;s Jeff and daughter of Reed&rsquo;s Donna and Carl Betz&rsquo;s Alex. If Donna represented the idealized television mother of the era, Mary quickly became something equally potent: an image of the ideal American teenage girl.</span></p>
<p><b>GEOFFREY MARK:</b><span style="font-weight: 400;"> &ldquo;There had not been a strong teenage girl like her on television before. There were other teenage characters who were insecure and neurotic, but Mary was good in school, pretty, always popular, always being dated&mdash;10 feet wide and about a quarter-inch deep. The character was more concerned with how she was doing her hair or what she was wearing or her social life than really caring about what was going on around her. The character just floated in this teenage world of her own. Along the way she became the poster girl for that white, Protestant, upper-middle-class suburban teenage girl of America.&rdquo;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">And then something happened that nobody could have reasonably expected: Mary Stone started singing.</span></p>
<h2><b>Enter &lsquo;Johnny Angel&rsquo;</b></h2>
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<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">In 1962, Fabares performed &ldquo;Johnny Angel&rdquo; on </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">The Donna Reed Show</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">. The song exploded, reaching No. 1 on the </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Billboard</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> Hot 100 and turning an actress who never considered herself much of a singer into a genuine recording star. Mark remembers the irony of it all.</span></p>
<p><b>GEOFFREY MARK:</b><span style="font-weight: 400;"> &ldquo;I don&rsquo;t think I&rsquo;m telling tales out of school that Shelley was no singer. They did God knows how many takes of the song and had to sew it together to make it work, but it worked and it became this huge hit. So Shelley is starring on a television show, has a hit song out and suddenly she&rsquo;s moving into movies.&rdquo;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Fabares would record additional material and release three albums, but nothing approached the phenomenon of &ldquo;Johnny Angel.&rdquo; The song&rsquo;s success, Mark points out, also demonstrates just how powerful network television was at the time.</span></p>
<p><b>GEOFFREY MARK:</b><span style="font-weight: 400;"> &ldquo;Having a song on a television show like that&mdash;today it sounds ridiculous, but back then a hit television show could have 40 million people watching every week. The wisdom of <a href="https://www.womansworld.com/entertainment/celebrities/gunnar-nelson-says-dad-ricky-saved-our-lives-before-plane-crash-exclusive" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Ozzie Nelson</a> was to make Ricky sing on the show. The hit music made young people watch the show, and the show made young people want to buy the hit music. The two fed each other. It did the same thing for Shelley.&rdquo;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">By the mid-1960s, Fabares was ready to leave Mary Stone behind.</span></p>
<h2><b>Shelley Fabares meets Elvis Presley</b></h2>
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<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Her transition to movies included </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Ride the Wild Surf</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> with Fabian and </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Hold On!</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> with Herman&rsquo;s Hermits frontman Peter Noone, but the films that would permanently connect Fabares to another pop culture phenomenon paired her with <a href="https://www.womansworld.com/tag/elvis-presley" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Elvis Presley</a>. She appeared opposite Presley in three movies: </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Girl Happy</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> in 1965, </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Spinout</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> in 1966 and </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Clambake</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> in 1967, and it was quite a leap from the Stone family&rsquo;s living room.</span></p>
<p><b>GEOFFREY MARK:</b><span style="font-weight: 400;"> &ldquo;Shelley left at just the right time and blossomed into kind of a sex symbol of her time&mdash;not quite so white-bread pure. She was able to play more sophisticated characters. The teenage-girl model thing that I just spoke of kind of went away as she out-aged it very quickly. She couldn&rsquo;t play, &lsquo;Oh, she&rsquo;s on the brink of womanhood.&rsquo; No. She </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">was</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> a woman.&rdquo;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">The hoped-for major movie career never quite materialized, despite working with one of the biggest stars in the world. Yet that may ultimately have worked in Fabares&rsquo; favor, because television gave her something more valuable than a short burst of movie stardom: an opportunity to reinvent herself.</span></p>

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<p><b>GEOFFREY MARK:</b><span style="font-weight: 400;"> &ldquo;Her movie career did not go where they all had hoped it would go, even with starring in the films with Elvis. And Shelley returned to television playing witty, sophisticated, bitchy characters that were still beautiful, but funny and layered and a little more real.&rdquo;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">That description fits Francine Webster, Fabares&rsquo; recurring character on the original </span><a href="https://www.womansworld.com/tag/one-day-at-a-time" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">One Day at a Time</span></i></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">, particularly well. Introduced as a friend and professional rival of Bonnie Franklin&rsquo;s Ann Romano, Francine allowed audiences who had grown up with Mary Stone to see just how good a comic actress Fabares had become. Mary had been the teenager everyone was supposed to admire; Francine could be competitive, manipulative, funny and exasperating.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Fabares had spent the years between those two characters working steadily. Among her most memorable dramatic performances was the 1971 television movie </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Brian&rsquo;s Song</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">, in which she portrayed Joy Piccolo, wife of Chicago Bears running back Brian Piccolo, opposite James Caan and Billy Dee Williams. There were regular roles on </span><a href="https://www.womansworld.com/entertainment/classic-tv/brian-keith-career-highlights-early-days-family-affair-and-more" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">The Brian Keith Show</span></i></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">, </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">The Practice</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> and </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Forever Fernwood</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">, along with seemingly endless television guest appearances.</span></p>
<p><b>GEOFFREY MARK:</b><span style="font-weight: 400;"> &ldquo;She was one of those wonderful comedy sitcom actresses who just went from show to show to show working. Her star never faded.&rdquo;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">And then came </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Coach</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">.</span></p>
<h2><b>Finding Christine Armstrong</b></h2>
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<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Premiering on ABC in 1989, </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Coach</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> starred Craig T. Nelson as Minnesota State University football coach Hayden Fox, with Fabares as Christine Armstrong, the television news anchor who eventually became his wife. The role completed the journey that had begun with Mary Stone three decades earlier. Christine was attractive, certainly, but her beauty wasn&rsquo;t the point. She was an accomplished adult woman with a demanding career, a strong personality and a relationship in which she was never simply an appendage to the male lead.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Fabares remained with </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Coach</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> throughout its nine-season run, earning two Emmy nominations for her performance. The series introduced her to viewers who might never have seen </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">The Donna Reed Show</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">, heard &ldquo;Johnny Angel&rdquo; on the radio when it was new or bought a ticket to see her opposite Elvis. It also demonstrated something about her that her teenage stardom could easily obscure: Shelley Fabares was actually a very good actress.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Following her death, Nelson remembered his longtime co-star as an extraordinary woman and an important part of his life during their years together on the series.</span></p>
<h2><b>A life beyond the screen</b></h2>
<figure id="attachment_532986" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-532986" style="width: 4531px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="size-full wp-image-532986" src="https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/11/GettyImages-904010818.jpg" alt="Actors Shelley Fabares and Mike Farrell attend the Los Angeles Premiere of 'The Assassination of Gianni Versace: American Crime Story' at ArcLight Hollywood on January 8, 2018 in Hollywood, California." width="4531" height="3016" srcset="https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/11/GettyImages-904010818.jpg?quality=86&amp;strip=all 4531w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/11/GettyImages-904010818.jpg?resize=248%2C165&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 248w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/11/GettyImages-904010818.jpg?resize=300%2C200&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 300w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/11/GettyImages-904010818.jpg?resize=768%2C511&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 768w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/11/GettyImages-904010818.jpg?resize=1024%2C682&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 1024w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/11/GettyImages-904010818.jpg?resize=1536%2C1022&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 1536w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/11/GettyImages-904010818.jpg?resize=2048%2C1363&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 2048w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/11/GettyImages-904010818.jpg?resize=50%2C33&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 50w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/11/GettyImages-904010818.jpg?resize=400%2C266&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 400w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/11/GettyImages-904010818.jpg?resize=500%2C333&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 500w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/11/GettyImages-904010818.jpg?resize=600%2C399&amp;quality=70&amp;strip=all 600w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/11/GettyImages-904010818.jpg?resize=270%2C180&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 270w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/11/GettyImages-904010818.jpg?resize=258%2C172&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 258w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/11/GettyImages-904010818.jpg?resize=350%2C233&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 350w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/11/GettyImages-904010818.jpg?resize=532%2C354&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 532w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/11/GettyImages-904010818.jpg?resize=714%2C475&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 714w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/11/GettyImages-904010818.jpg?resize=805%2C536&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 805w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/11/GettyImages-904010818.jpg?resize=1623%2C1080&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 1623w" sizes="(max-width: 680px) calc(100vw - 60px), 660px"><figcaption><span class="figcaption-inner"><span class="caption wp-caption-532986">Actors Shelley Fabares and Mike Farrell attend the Los Angeles Premiere of &lsquo;The Assassination of Gianni Versace: American Crime Story&rsquo; at ArcLight Hollywood on January 8, 2018 in Hollywood, California.</span><br><span class="credit wp-credit-532986">Axelle/Bauer-Griffin/FilmMagic</span></span></figcaption></figure>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Offscreen, Fabares&rsquo; life had its own difficult chapters. Her first marriage, to record producer Lou Adler, ended in divorce. In 1984, she married </span><a href="https://www.womansworld.com/tag/mash" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">M*A*S*H</span></i></a><span style="font-weight: 400;"> star Mike Farrell, beginning a marriage that would last more than four decades. She also became deeply involved in Alzheimer&rsquo;s advocacy after watching her mother battle the disease.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Then came her own health crisis. In the late 1990s, Fabares developed severe liver problems caused by autoimmune hepatitis. Her condition deteriorated to the point that she required a transplant, which she received in 2000 after a lengthy wait. It&rsquo;s that part of Fabares&rsquo; story that particularly impresses Mark.</span></p>
<p><b>GEOFFREY MARK:</b><span style="font-weight: 400;"> &ldquo;She was given a death sentence a very long time ago. She outfoxed the whole medical community, living into her 80s when she was told she wouldn&rsquo;t live past her early 60s. Tenacity, good doctors and luck.&rdquo;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Her acting appearances became increasingly infrequent afterward. Among her later work was voicing Martha Kent in the DC animated universe, including </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Superman: The Animated Series</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">, </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Justice League</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> and, finally, </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Superman: Brainiac Attacks</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> in 2006.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">But by then Fabares had nothing left to prove. She had made the extraordinarily difficult transition from child performer to teenage star, from pop singer to movie leading lady, from former teen idol to character actress and, eventually, Emmy-nominated sitcom star. More than that, she had managed to grow older without spending her career trying to recreate Mary Stone.</span></p>
<h2><b>Saying goodbye to Shelley Fabares</b></h2>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Which is probably why Shelley Fabares&rsquo; death feels like the loss of something more than another familiar television face.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">There are performers whose characters become inseparable from the era in which they were created. For millions of Baby Boomers, Mary Stone was one of them, belonging to the same television landscape as Ricky Nelson, Annette Funicello and the other young stars who offered postwar America what was an idealized picture of what adolescence supposedly looked like. Fabares simply had the good fortune and talent to keep going after America stopped asking her to be that girl.</span></p>
<p><b>GEOFFREY MARK:</b><span style="font-weight: 400;"> &ldquo;There were always these idols of youth and purity and energy, and Shelley fell into that. To Baby Boomers, she represented a type that the girls of America looked to. Everyone wanted to be just like Shelley Fabares in the same way every girl wanted to date Ricky Nelson and every boy wanted to be just like him. Baby Boomers are sad today because they&rsquo;ve lost the icon of what the American teenage girl should be.&rdquo;</span></p>

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		<title>Leonard Nimoy Almost Directed a Lost 'Doctor Who' Movie</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Before Paul McGann became the Eighth Doctor in 1996&#8217;s Doctor Who television movie, another science-fiction legend nearly became part of the Time Lord&#8217;s universe: Star Trek icon Leonard Nimoy. And for the record, this was not simply just on somebody&#8217;s wish list. Nimoy, who had successfully moved behind the camera as director of such films [&#8230;]]]></description>
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<?xml encoding="utf-8" ?><html><body><p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Before <a href="https://www.womansworld.com/entertainment/classic-tv/the-doctors-are-in-meet-every-actor-who-played-doctor-who-over-the-shows-61-years" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Paul McGann</a> became the Eighth Doctor in 1996&rsquo;s </span><a href="https://www.womansworld.com/tag/doctor-who" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Doctor Who</span></i></a><span style="font-weight: 400;"> television movie, another science-fiction legend nearly became part of the Time Lord&rsquo;s universe: </span><a href="https://www.womansworld.com/tag/star-trek" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Star Trek</span></i></a><span style="font-weight: 400;"> icon Leonard Nimoy. And for the record, this was </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">not </span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">simply just on somebody&rsquo;s wish list.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Nimoy, who had successfully moved behind the camera as director of such films as </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Star Trek III: The Search for Spock</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">, </span><a href="https://www.womansworld.com/entertainment/movies/how-star-trek-iv-the-voyage-home-reinvented-the-franchise" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home</span></i></a><span style="font-weight: 400;"> and </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Three Men and a Baby</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">, was attached to direct an earlier proposed theatrical </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Doctor Who</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">. Producer Philip Segal, who spent years attempting to bring </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Doctor Who</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> back to television, actually found himself dealing directly with Nimoy.</span></p>
<p><b>PHILIP SEGAL (producer, </b><b><i>Doctor Who: The Movie</i></b><b>):</b><span style="font-weight: 400;"> &ldquo;For the TV movie I was working on, there was one hurdle left. There was a movie that was supposed to be made, or was in pre-production. They had a deal to do a movie with <a href="https://www.womansworld.com/entertainment/classic-tv/leonard-nimoy-life-and-legacy-beyond-spock" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Leonard Nimoy</a> attached to direct it&mdash;and I think maybe even starring in it. I don&rsquo;t know. I actually didn&rsquo;t know about this until the lawyers got involved. In those days, it was very important when you were going to get rights to something, you needed to make sure you had </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">all</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> the rights, not just some of them. So it couldn&rsquo;t be encumbered or clouded. You couldn&rsquo;t have any loose strings. The idea that there was a movie deal floating around out there did not make the lawyers happy, and there was no way I was going to get this done if that didn&rsquo;t go away.&rdquo;</span></p><body><div id="gist-answers-widget" class="gist-answers-widget">
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<figure id="attachment_637054" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-637054" style="width: 2552px" class="wp-caption aligncenter portrait-orientation"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="size-full wp-image-637054 portrait-orientation" src="https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/DR-WHO-LEONARD-NIMOY.jpg" alt="Leonard Nimoy envisioned as Doctor Who" width="2552" height="3510" srcset="https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/DR-WHO-LEONARD-NIMOY.jpg?quality=86&amp;strip=all 2552w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/DR-WHO-LEONARD-NIMOY.jpg?resize=120%2C165&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 120w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/DR-WHO-LEONARD-NIMOY.jpg?resize=218%2C300&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 218w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/DR-WHO-LEONARD-NIMOY.jpg?resize=768%2C1056&amp;quality=40&amp;strip=all 768w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/DR-WHO-LEONARD-NIMOY.jpg?resize=745%2C1024&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 745w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/DR-WHO-LEONARD-NIMOY.jpg?resize=1117%2C1536&amp;quality=40&amp;strip=all 1117w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/DR-WHO-LEONARD-NIMOY.jpg?resize=1489%2C2048&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 1489w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/DR-WHO-LEONARD-NIMOY.jpg?resize=36%2C50&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 36w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/DR-WHO-LEONARD-NIMOY.jpg?resize=291%2C400&amp;quality=40&amp;strip=all 291w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/DR-WHO-LEONARD-NIMOY.jpg?resize=364%2C500&amp;quality=40&amp;strip=all 364w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/DR-WHO-LEONARD-NIMOY.jpg?resize=436%2C600&amp;quality=40&amp;strip=all 436w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/DR-WHO-LEONARD-NIMOY.jpg?resize=125%2C172&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 125w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/DR-WHO-LEONARD-NIMOY.jpg?resize=169%2C233&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 169w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/DR-WHO-LEONARD-NIMOY.jpg?resize=257%2C354&amp;quality=40&amp;strip=all 257w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/DR-WHO-LEONARD-NIMOY.jpg?resize=345%2C475&amp;quality=40&amp;strip=all 345w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/DR-WHO-LEONARD-NIMOY.jpg?resize=390%2C536&amp;quality=40&amp;strip=all 390w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/DR-WHO-LEONARD-NIMOY.jpg?resize=785%2C1080&amp;quality=40&amp;strip=all 785w" sizes="(max-width: 680px) calc(100vw - 60px), 660px"><figcaption><span class="figcaption-inner portrait-orientation"><span class="caption wp-caption-637054 portrait-orientation">Leonard Nimoy envisioned as Doctor Who</span><br><span class="credit wp-credit-637054 portrait-orientation">Artwork courtesy Pat Carbajal</span></span></figcaption></figure>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">&ldquo;They had to start pre-production by a certain date. Otherwise, those rights reverted back to the BBC and then I was fully clear. And they kept promising&mdash;this movie company kept promising&mdash;that they were scouting locations with Leonard and all this stuff. And I thought, &lsquo;Okay, well, I&rsquo;ll have a meeting with Leonard Nimoy and see exactly what&rsquo;s going on.&rsquo; He came to Amblin, where I was working, and we had a meeting and we talked about it. And I found out from him that there </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">wasn&rsquo;t</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> really pre-production going on. They were kind of bamboozling everybody, trying to figure out how to get enough money to even start.&rdquo;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">One point that Segal emphasizes is that Nimoy&rsquo;s interest was absolutely genuine and </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">not </span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">some passing fancy</span></p>
<p><b>PHILIP SEGAL:</b><span style="font-weight: 400;"> &ldquo;Oh, it was very serious. I think in that moment in time, he was exploring wanting to be a director very seriously and they thought it was a great name at the time to attach. But as serious as he was, they just didn&rsquo;t have the financing. On top of that, I knew just from reading that script and also from understanding who the players were, that they just couldn&rsquo;t get it done. Remember, I worked for Amblin, so I had access to all kinds of intelligence&mdash;intelligence gathering from other studios, from agencies. There wasn&rsquo;t any piece of information I didn&rsquo;t know about a deal, and I knew that it was never going to get made. Not like that.&rdquo; </span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">&ldquo;Eventually, the clock ran out and we were able to move forward. But as I said, there was a script for that version, which I read. And it was awful. It literally made those two Peter Cushing movies from the 1960s look like </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Raiders of the Lost Ark</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">. Oh, it was bad.&rdquo;</span></p>
<h3><b>Leonard Nimoy quick facts</b></h3>
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<li style="font-weight: 400;" aria-level="1"><b>Full name:</b><span style="font-weight: 400;"> Leonard Simon Nimoy</span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;" aria-level="1"><b>Born:</b><span style="font-weight: 400;"> March 26, 1931, in Boston, Massachusetts</span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;" aria-level="1"><b>Died:</b><span style="font-weight: 400;"> February 27, 2015, at age 83</span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;" aria-level="1"><b>Best known for:</b><span style="font-weight: 400;"> Playing Spock in </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Star Trek</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">, beginning with the original 1960s science fiction series</span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;" aria-level="1"><b>First </b><b><i>Star Trek</i></b><b> movie:</b><span style="font-weight: 400;"> Reprised Spock in </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Star Trek: The Motion Picture</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> (1979)</span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;" aria-level="1"><b>Famous sequel:</b><span style="font-weight: 400;"> Returned in </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> (1982), which featured Spock&rsquo;s memorable sacrifice</span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;" aria-level="1"><b>Behind the camera:</b><span style="font-weight: 400;"> Directed </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Star Trek III: The Search for Spock</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> (1984) and </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> (1986)</span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;" aria-level="1"><b>Other </b><b><i>Star Trek</i></b><b> appearances:</b><span style="font-weight: 400;"> Nimoy played Spock in </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Star Trek V</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">, </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Star Trek VI</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> and later appeared in the J.J. Abrams-era films</span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;" aria-level="1"><b>Beyond </b><b><i>Star Trek</i></b><b>:</b><span style="font-weight: 400;"> Had a major role on </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Mission: Impossible</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">, playing Paris from 1969 to 1971</span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;" aria-level="1"><b>Other directing work:</b><span style="font-weight: 400;"> Directed the hit 1987 comedy </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Three Men and a Baby</span></i></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;" aria-level="1"><b>Signature phrase:</b><span style="font-weight: 400;"> Spock&rsquo;s Vulcan greeting, &ldquo;Live long and prosper,&rdquo; became inseparable from Nimoy and his legacy</span></li>
<li style="font-weight: 400;" aria-level="1"><b>William Shatner connection:</b><span style="font-weight: 400;"> Nimoy and William Shatner became television icons as Spock and Captain Kirk, a partnership that continued through multiple </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Star Trek</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> films</span></li>
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<?xml encoding="utf-8" ?><html><body><p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Nearly 15 years after </span><a href="https://www.womansworld.com/entertainment/classic-tv/buck-rogers-cast-then-and-now-gil-gerard-erin-gray-and-more" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Buck Rogers in the 25th Century</span></i></a><span style="font-weight: 400;"> ended its run, Erin Gray saw an opportunity she desperately wanted: the chance to command a starship. Having played Colonel Wilma Deering opposite Gil Gerard&rsquo;s Buck Rogers from 1979 to 1981, she was among the actresses considered for Captain Kathryn Janeway on </span><a href="https://www.womansworld.com/entertainment/classic-tv/star-trek-voyager-cast" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Star Trek: Voyager</span></i></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">. The role would eventually go to Kate Mulgrew after original star <a href="https://www.womansworld.com/entertainment/classic-tv/how-kate-mulgrew-saved-captain-janeway-and-star-trek-voyager" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Genevi&egrave;ve Bujold</a> departed shortly after filming began, but Gray remembers fighting just for the opportunity to audition.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">For her, it wasn&rsquo;t simply about joining </span><a href="https://www.womansworld.com/tag/star-trek" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Star Trek</span></i></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">, a franchise she admits she was never that familiar with. Instead, it stemmed from the years of playing women who frequently existed in support of a male leading character&mdash;including Wilma, despite her military rank. In Janeway, Gray saw the kind of role actresses were rarely offered at the time: the person in charge and the character around whom the story revolved.</span></p>
<p><b>ERIN GRAY:</b><span style="font-weight: 400;"> &ldquo;I knew it was an opportunity of a lifetime. I really wanted to be in charge. It just came at a time in my life where I went, &lsquo;I want this.&rsquo; But I had a hard time getting in on the audition; they did not want to see me. I kept asking my agent to please try again. And finally they did. They let me in. </span><span style="font-weight: 400;">I went into the audition really memorizing that monologue&mdash;and memorization is </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">not</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> easy for me. I get nervous and my mind blanks out or whatever, but I worked really hard on it. And I get in there and I&rsquo;m about to say the opening line and I hear a voice off to my right saying, &lsquo;So you don&rsquo;t remember me, huh? We only spent three weeks together in Hawaii.&rsquo;&rdquo;</span></p><body><div id="gist-answers-widget" class="gist-answers-widget">
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<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">&ldquo;I&rsquo;m looking at the person and I don&rsquo;t recognize him. I think, &lsquo;Wow, I did three movies in Hawaii, and who is&hellip;?&rsquo; Talk about throwing me off my center. Well, that did it. I got through it, but not to that place as an actor where you know you nailed it. You feel good about it. You were flowing. This was not that. I did it, but it wasn&rsquo;t the best.&rdquo;</span></p>
<figure id="attachment_636696" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-636696" style="width: 2913px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="size-full wp-image-636696" src="https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/TSDBURO_EC035.jpg" alt="BUCK ROGERS IN THE 25TH CENTURY, Larry 'Buster'Crabbe, Erin Gray, Gil Gerard in 'Planet of the Slave Girls: Parts 1 and 2' (Season 1, Episodes 3 and 4, aired September 27, 1979), 1979-81." width="2913" height="1950" srcset="https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/TSDBURO_EC035.jpg?quality=86&amp;strip=all 2913w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/TSDBURO_EC035.jpg?resize=246%2C165&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 246w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/TSDBURO_EC035.jpg?resize=300%2C201&amp;quality=62&amp;strip=all 300w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/TSDBURO_EC035.jpg?resize=768%2C514&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 768w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/TSDBURO_EC035.jpg?resize=1024%2C685&amp;quality=77&amp;strip=all 1024w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/TSDBURO_EC035.jpg?resize=1536%2C1028&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 1536w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/TSDBURO_EC035.jpg?resize=2048%2C1371&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 2048w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/TSDBURO_EC035.jpg?resize=50%2C33&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 50w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/TSDBURO_EC035.jpg?resize=400%2C268&amp;quality=81&amp;strip=all 400w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/TSDBURO_EC035.jpg?resize=500%2C335&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 500w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/TSDBURO_EC035.jpg?resize=600%2C402&amp;quality=62&amp;strip=all 600w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/TSDBURO_EC035.jpg?resize=270%2C180&amp;quality=62&amp;strip=all 270w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/TSDBURO_EC035.jpg?resize=257%2C172&amp;quality=62&amp;strip=all 257w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/TSDBURO_EC035.jpg?resize=348%2C233&amp;quality=62&amp;strip=all 348w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/TSDBURO_EC035.jpg?resize=529%2C354&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 529w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/TSDBURO_EC035.jpg?resize=710%2C475&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 710w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/TSDBURO_EC035.jpg?resize=801%2C536&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 801w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/TSDBURO_EC035.jpg?resize=1613%2C1080&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 1613w" sizes="(max-width: 680px) calc(100vw - 60px), 660px"><figcaption><span class="figcaption-inner"><span class="caption wp-caption-636696">BUCK ROGERS IN THE 25TH CENTURY, Larry &lsquo;Buster&rsquo;Crabbe, Erin Gray, Gil Gerard in &lsquo;Planet of the Slave Girls: Parts 1 and 2&rsquo; (Season 1, Episodes 3 and 4, aired September 27, 1979), 1979-81.</span><br><span class="credit wp-credit-636696">©Universal Television/courtesy Everett Collection</span></span></figcaption></figure>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">The man Gray couldn&rsquo;t place turned out to be a director she&rsquo;d previously worked with on an episode of </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Magnum, P.I.</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> His presence rattled her for reasons that went back to that earlier experience, and the timing couldn&rsquo;t have been worse.&nbsp;</span></p>
<p><b>ERIN GRAY:</b><span style="font-weight: 400;"> &ldquo;I knew that the role for Captain Janeway was important to the producers and the director because they wanted somebody who could do a lot of dialogue and memorize it and do it quickly. They&rsquo;d had problems with another actress who hadn&rsquo;t been able to do that and didn&rsquo;t like working at the speed that television requires, so she left and they were looking for a replacement. So I knew how important that was going in, but I did not know that the same director who did </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Magnum, P.I.</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> would be the same director of that episode. I was so humiliated. It was one of those moments. But it turned out to be for the best. My father did wisely say that all things conform to the right way, and he&rsquo;s right.&rdquo;</span></p>
<h2><b>Why Janeway meant so much to Erin Gray</b></h2>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Gray&rsquo;s desire to play Janeway becomes considerably more understandable when viewed against the career she&rsquo;d already had. Wilma Deering may have been a colonel, but </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Buck Rogers in the 25th Century</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> was still built around the title character. She had spent years encountering a familiar limitation for actresses: no matter how capable their characters were supposed to be, the men usually remained at the center. Janeway offered something different.</span></p>
<figure id="attachment_636695" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-636695" style="width: 2320px" class="wp-caption aligncenter portrait-orientation"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="size-full wp-image-636695 portrait-orientation" src="https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/TSDBURO_EC028.jpg" alt="BUCK ROGERS IN THE 25TH CENTURY, (from left): Erin Gray, Nicholas Hormann, 'Space Vampire', (Season 1, aired Jan. 3, 1980), 1979-1981. " width="2320" height="3300" srcset="https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/TSDBURO_EC028.jpg?quality=86&amp;strip=all 2320w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/TSDBURO_EC028.jpg?resize=116%2C165&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 116w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/TSDBURO_EC028.jpg?resize=211%2C300&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 211w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/TSDBURO_EC028.jpg?resize=768%2C1092&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 768w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/TSDBURO_EC028.jpg?resize=720%2C1024&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 720w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/TSDBURO_EC028.jpg?resize=1080%2C1536&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 1080w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/TSDBURO_EC028.jpg?resize=1440%2C2048&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 1440w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/TSDBURO_EC028.jpg?resize=35%2C50&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 35w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/TSDBURO_EC028.jpg?resize=281%2C400&amp;quality=62&amp;strip=all 281w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/TSDBURO_EC028.jpg?resize=352%2C500&amp;quality=62&amp;strip=all 352w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/TSDBURO_EC028.jpg?resize=422%2C600&amp;quality=62&amp;strip=all 422w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/TSDBURO_EC028.jpg?resize=121%2C172&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 121w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/TSDBURO_EC028.jpg?resize=164%2C233&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 164w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/TSDBURO_EC028.jpg?resize=249%2C354&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 249w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/TSDBURO_EC028.jpg?resize=334%2C475&amp;quality=62&amp;strip=all 334w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/TSDBURO_EC028.jpg?resize=377%2C536&amp;quality=62&amp;strip=all 377w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/TSDBURO_EC028.jpg?resize=759%2C1080&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 759w" sizes="(max-width: 680px) calc(100vw - 60px), 660px"><figcaption><span class="figcaption-inner portrait-orientation"><span class="caption wp-caption-636695 portrait-orientation">BUCK ROGERS IN THE 25TH CENTURY, (from left): Erin Gray, Nicholas Hormann, &lsquo;Space Vampire&rsquo;, (Season 1, aired Jan. 3, 1980), 1979-1981.</span><br><span class="credit wp-credit-636695 portrait-orientation">(c) Universal Television/ Courtesy: Everett Collection.</span></span></figcaption></figure>
<p><b>ERIN GRAY:</b><span style="font-weight: 400;"> &ldquo;I think it&rsquo;s more the fact that there were very few roles for women to star in, period. I was always the objectified, beautiful girl who adoringly looked up at her leading man and whatever, but to be the center and to carry the story was a rare occurrence.&rdquo;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">&ldquo;The only time I did that was on &lsquo;Vampire in Space,&rsquo; the one episode on </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Buck Rogers</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> [where] the storyline went through my character. So to be in something where I could be pivotal to that storyline was very appealing to me as an actress. I did one movie called </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Born Beautiful</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> that I was the lead in, and it was a great experience. I wanted to do that again. I didn&rsquo;t want it to be all about being goo-goo eyes at the leading man kind of thing. I did a lot of that in the &rsquo;80s, which is fine. I mean, I love men, so I had no problem with that. But there&rsquo;s something as an actor, as a talent, that you just want something you can sink your teeth into.&rdquo;</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">That frustration actually makes Wilma Deering an interesting contradiction. Gray may not have felt she was being given the opportunities she wanted dramatically, yet Wilma was having a profound effect on many of the girls watching. That&rsquo;s something Gray wouldn&rsquo;t discover until years later.</span></p>
<p><b>ERIN GRAY:</b><span style="font-weight: 400;"> &ldquo;I know that with </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Buck Rogers</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">, my role had inspired a lot of women to join the military. I had a woman who was one of the highest-ranking women in the Marine Corps come up to my table and she was, like, &lsquo;You&rsquo;re the reason.&rsquo; I&rsquo;m looking at this almost six-foot-tall woman going, &lsquo;Really? I inspired you?&rsquo; &lsquo;Absolutely.&rsquo; And she said, &lsquo;Oh, I just got a call. I got to go. I got to go fly the president.&rsquo; &lsquo;Yeah, yeah, go. Please.&rsquo; But to know that my role did that, I did not ever think when I got the job on </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Buck Rogers</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> that that would have that kind of influence. It was just a job. It was just do the best you can kind of thing. To find out 10, 15 years later the impact, it was mind-boggling to me.&rdquo;</span></p>

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<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">In that respect, Gray&rsquo;s experience with Wilma belongs to a larger science-fiction tradition. Nichelle Nichols famously heard from women inspired by Uhura to pursue careers in science and the space program, while Mulgrew would discover that Captain Janeway had a similar influence on the generation that grew up watching </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Voyager</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">. Gray never imagined Wilma Deering would be part of that lineage.</span></p>
<p><b>ERIN GRAY:</b><span style="font-weight: 400;"> &ldquo;That&rsquo;s a wonderful gift the universe gave us in a sense, because I didn&rsquo;t set off to do that. I set off to get a job and survive. I came from a very poor upbringing and left home very early and it was up to me to pay the bills, find a job and discover myself and figure it all out. So thinking of a legacy was not in my upbringing.&rdquo;</span></p>
<h2><b>The changing face of Wilma Deering</b></h2>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Even Wilma&rsquo;s status on </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Buck Rogers</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> wasn&rsquo;t necessarily secure. The series was dramatically revamped for its second season, with the characters leaving Earth aboard the space vessel </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Searcher</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">. Gray remembers meeting incoming producer John Mantley and being greeted with a rather startling declaration.</span></p>
<p><b>ERIN GRAY:</b><span style="font-weight: 400;"> &ldquo;When I met the new producer, I think we met him at a bar somewhere near Universal Studios or something, if my memory is correct. Anyway, he said, &lsquo;You know, I&rsquo;m going to fire you.&rsquo; I went, &lsquo;What? Are you nuts?&rsquo; Because I knew the success of my spandex, that&rsquo;s for sure. And I was, like, &lsquo;Really? Okay. What can I tell you? I&rsquo;m not going to fight for it, but if you think so.&rsquo; We continued to have a conversation and he shared his ideas with me. And of course he didn&rsquo;t fire me.&rdquo;</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Gray remained with the show, although an attempt was made to change Wilma&rsquo;s familiar look.</span></p>
<p><b>ERIN GRAY:</b><span style="font-weight: 400;"> &ldquo;Unfortunately, I didn&rsquo;t wear my spandex for a while, a couple of episodes. I was Dairy Queen in space instead, which didn&rsquo;t last long because I said, &lsquo;Give me back the spandex.&rsquo; The hat went first. And then the little skirt, whatever. I just needed the tray and the roller skates to complete the look.&rdquo;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">There&rsquo;s an irony to all of this that Gray recognizes. Her appearance was undeniably part of the appeal of </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Buck Rogers</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">, but she was an actress who wanted considerably more than just looking good beside the hero. Which is why, when she read the </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Voyager</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> material years later, Janeway struck such a chord.</span></p>
<p><b>ERIN GRAY:</b><span style="font-weight: 400;"> &ldquo;I did [get a sense of Janeway]. And I wanted to bring my take on it and bring myself into that role. And I felt I was very right for it, but it wasn&rsquo;t meant to be.&rdquo;</span></p>
<p>Gray may not have gotten her chance to join the official <em data-start="1917" data-end="1928">Star Trek</em> universe, but years later she did get to put on a Starfleet uniform. She appeared as Commodore Laura Gray in the acclaimed fan-produced series <em data-start="2072" data-end="2093">Star Trek Continues</em>, which was designed to recreate the look and feel of the original 1960s series, debuting with the 2014 episode &ldquo;Lolani&rdquo; and returning two years later for &ldquo;Embracing the Winds.&rdquo; In a coincidence that seems particularly appropriate given her feelings about Janeway, the latter dealt with Commander Diana Garrett (Clare Kramer) challenging Starfleet over the barriers preventing women from commanding Constitution-class starships. Gray&rsquo;s Commodore was one of the officers presiding over the dispute.</p>
<h2><b>The Captain&rsquo;s chair that got away</b></h2>
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<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Mulgrew ultimately got that opportunity and made Janeway one of </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Star Trek</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">&lsquo;s defining characters, while Gray came to realize there was another side to the job she had wanted so badly.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">She already knew something about the punishing schedule of a weekly science-fiction series from </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Buck Rogers</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">. By the time </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Voyager</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> came along, Gray was also a mother. Years later, she recognized her own experience in Mulgrew&rsquo;s account of the price she paid while trying to balance motherhood with the demands of playing Janeway.</span></p>
<p><b>ERIN GRAY:</b><span style="font-weight: 400;"> &ldquo;Looking back, strangely enough, I had said I would never want to work the hours that I worked on </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Buck Rogers</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> and have a child at the same time. That&rsquo;s just impossible for me as a mother, and combining the two roles is hard. Kate Mulgrew said in her memoirs, which I read, that she felt that it really damaged her relationship with her sons in that the hours were so long. She talks about sleeping on the set, which [was] similar to what I did on </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Buck Rogers</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">, sleeping in my dressing room, not even bothering to go home because it was eight hours before we were back in action again.&rdquo;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">&ldquo;So looking back at it, it was a good thing that I didn&rsquo;t get the role, because I had another baby at that time, so it was really a blessing in disguise. But, damn, I wanted to be in charge.&rdquo;</span></p>

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<p class="PDq2pG_selectionAnchorContainer" data-start="178" data-end="865">For television viewers of a certain age, there was something irresistible about <em data-start="258" data-end="287">Battle of the Network Stars</em>. Where else could you see <a href="https://www.womansworld.com/tag/star-trek" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><em data-start="314" data-end="325">Star Trek</em></a>&lsquo;s William Shatner, <em data-start="345" data-end="366">The Incredible Hulk</em>&lsquo;s <a href="https://www.womansworld.com/entertainment/celebrities/lou-ferrigno-on-how-star-trek-gave-him-hope-and-inspired-his-life" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Lou Ferrigno</a>, <em data-start="383" data-end="397">Magnum, P.I.</em>&lsquo;s <a href="https://www.womansworld.com/uncategorized/tom-selleck-westerns-how-blue-bloods-star-found-a-home-in-the-west" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tom Selleck</a> and <a href="https://www.womansworld.com/entertainment/classic-tv/buck-rogers-cast-then-and-now-gil-gerard-erin-gray-and-more" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><em data-start="416" data-end="449">Buck Rogers in the 25th Century</em></a>&lsquo;s Erin Gray&mdash;along with dozens of other familiar faces from ABC, CBS and NBC&mdash;leave their characters behind and show up at Pepperdine University in swimsuits and athletic gear? Suddenly, the stars viewers knew from dramas, sitcoms and sci-fi adventures were swimming, kayaking, running relays, tackling obstacle courses and pulling for dear life in the climactic tug-of-war. Most importantly, they weren&rsquo;t pretending.</p>
<p data-start="867" data-end="1339">That became apparent during the very first <em data-start="910" data-end="939">Battle of the Network Stars</em>, broadcast November 13, 1976, when a disputed relay race resulted in <em data-start="1009" data-end="1030">Baa Baa Black Sheep</em> star and NBC captain Robert Conrad challenging <a href="https://www.womansworld.com/tag/welcome-back-kotter" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><em data-start="1078" data-end="1100">Welcome Back, Kotter</em></a>&lsquo;s Gabe Kaplan, captain of the ABC team, to settle things by racing each other. What might have been little more than a disposable television special suddenly became something considerably more compelling: These stars really wanted to win.</p>
<p data-start="1341" data-end="1815" data-is-last-node="" data-is-only-node="">Producer Bill Garnet believes that moment helped turn <em data-start="1395" data-end="1424">Battle of the Network Stars</em> into a phenomenon. Now, as the show celebrates its 50th anniversary, he looks back at how it happened, why some of television&rsquo;s biggest stars couldn&rsquo;t resist participating and why recreating its peculiar magic today would be nearly impossible&mdash;with Ferrigno and Gray offering their own memories of what happened once the celebrities stopped playing characters and started competing.</p>
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<h2><b>Before there was a &lsquo;Battle&rsquo;</b></h2>
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<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">According to Garnet, the roots of </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Battle of the Network Stars</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> actually stretched back years before its 1976 debut.</span></p>
<p><b>BILL GARNET (producer, </b><b><i>Battle of the Network Stars</i></b><b>): </b><span style="font-weight: 400;">&ldquo;There was a gentleman by the name of Dick Button who won the gold medal in men&rsquo;s figure skating twice in the Olympics. And when he won the second one, he was awarded something called the Hickok Belt, which at the time&mdash;it doesn&rsquo;t exist anymore&mdash;represented who was considered to be the best amateur athlete in the United States.&rdquo;</span></p><body><div id="gist-answers-widget" class="gist-answers-widget">
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<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">&ldquo;And Dick commented that not only didn&rsquo;t he think he was the best amateur athlete in the United States, he didn&rsquo;t even think he was the best amateur athlete amongst figure skaters. So out of that, he grew this idea, which he finally nicknamed </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">World&rsquo;s Most Versatile Athlete</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">. And his idea was to get a bunch of athletes together who were famous in their sport and have them compete in sports other than what they were famous for.&rdquo;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Button took the idea to the three networks &mdash; ABC, NBC and CBS &mdash; and initially found no takers.</span></p>
<p><b>BILL GARNET: </b><span style="font-weight: 400;">&ldquo;The gentleman that he pitched it to at CBS was a guy named Barry Frank, who later became the executive vice president of the International Management Group. It had a division called Trans World International, which was the television production arm of it. Barry remembered </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">World&rsquo;s Most Versatile Athlete</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">, changed it to </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">The Superstars</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">, went and pitched Roone Arledge at ABC, and Roone said, &lsquo;Fine, you can get it on a Sunday afternoon if you can get it sponsored.&rsquo; Which Barry did. It did well. So the next year they did, I think, four of them. And the next year they did seven of them. And it continued to grow and spawned </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Women&rsquo;s Superstars</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">, </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">World Superstars</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> and then we did something called </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Celebrity Superstars</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">, which had people like Oleg Cassini and Robert Duvall. And out of that grew the idea of doing </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Battle of the Network Stars</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">.&rdquo;</span></p>
<h2><b>Getting ABC, CBS and NBC to play together</b></h2>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Bringing stars from the three competing networks together was something virtually unheard of at the time. &ldquo;It wasn&rsquo;t </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">pretty</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> unprecedented,&rdquo; he clarifies, &ldquo;it </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">was</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> unprecedented.&rdquo;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Yet the networks quickly recognized that putting their stars on ABC could actually benefit them.</span></p>
<p><b>BILL GARNET: </b><span style="font-weight: 400;">&ldquo;The networks were looking at the show as great publicity for their shows, so they didn&rsquo;t mind the exposure. Not sure you could get away with it these days, but those days, networks had no problem. And it was always on ABC, so ABC, of course, had no problem, but NBC and CBS were more than happy because they figured it was great exposure for their shows. And we always were the number one show, so whether you were on a CBS show or an NBC show, the exposure for your show was great.&rdquo;</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">The first </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Battle</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> included Ron Howard, Penny Marshall, Robert Conrad and Gabe Kaplan, among many others. But for Garnet, one incident in particular demonstrated why the show connected with viewers.</span></p>
<p><b>BILL GARNET: </b><span style="font-weight: 400;">&ldquo;The thing that I think made the show take off was the running relay in the first show. What happened was one of the NBC runners was judged as passing the baton outside the passing zone. NBC won the race, but it was decided that they had to be penalized because they passed it out of the zone. As a result, they were awarded a two-second penalty, which put them in second place and put ABC in first place.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">&ldquo;Bob Conrad was not happy about this. Bob was a very competitive guy, so he started going nuts and thought it was unfair and so on and so forth. And Telly Savalas got involved. But at the end of the day, Conrad said to Gabe Kaplan [</span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Welcome Back Kotter</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">], &lsquo;Why don&rsquo;t we have a runoff?&rsquo; And Gabe said, &lsquo;Just you and me.&rsquo; What Gabe knew, which Bob didn&rsquo;t, was Gabe ran track in high school, so it was Bob Conrad against Gabe Kaplan and Gabe Kaplan beat him. But I think that moment, that drama and that sort of realism made people say, &lsquo;Oh, this is actually real. This isn&rsquo;t just a bunch of actors making believe they&rsquo;re doing stuff.&rsquo; They were </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">really</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> competitive.&rdquo;</span></p>
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<p><b>LOU FERRIGNO (actor, </b><b><i>The Incredible Hulk</i></b><b>): </b><span style="font-weight: 400;">&ldquo;I remember when I did </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Battle of the Network Stars</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">, I had a chance to see all the other celebrities from the TV shows being themselves. Because when you&rsquo;re filming a TV series or a film, you&rsquo;re playing a character. It was just like a group of us all having fun, especially when it came to the competition. But when it came to the competition, they&rsquo;d fire the gun and everyone changes. Everybody wants to win. Nobody wants to lose. I remember I had a great time on the show because you had the different networks&mdash;CBS, NBC, ABC. And I remember people like Robert Conrad, Erin Gray, these different people, being with them, seeing them. It was just so delicious.&rdquo;</span></p>
<h2><b>Celebrities who wanted to be athletes</b></h2>
<p><b>BILL GARNET: </b><span style="font-weight: 400;">&ldquo;What we found out over the course of time is that athletes wanted to be celebrities and celebrities wanted to be athletes, so this gave them their chance to. It was one weekend at Pepperdine, which is in Malibu and is beautiful. And we demoed everybody out. They, at the time, got paid rather well for it, but the bottom line was they had fun and we knew it was competitive, but it was outside of their acting. So they got to do something that was fun in sports and something that they could sort of sink their teeth into.&rdquo;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">In Robert Conrad&rsquo;s case, his </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Battle</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> persona even had an unexpected impact beyond the show.</span></p>
<p><b>BILL GARNET: </b><span style="font-weight: 400;">&ldquo;There was a time where, I don&rsquo;t remember which one of the shows it was, but Bob Conrad was out of work. He had done </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">The Wild Wild West</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> and he had done </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Baa Baa Black Sheep</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> and that got canceled and he had nothing lined up. We were sitting there in the bleachers talking and I said, &lsquo;Why don&rsquo;t you just be a hard-ass? Maybe something will come of it.&rsquo; What came out of that was his successful Eveready Battery commercials. That sort of grew out of this character that he played on </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Battle of the Network Stars</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">.&rdquo;</span></p>
<figure id="attachment_636397" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-636397" style="width: 3071px" class="wp-caption aligncenter portrait-orientation"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="size-full wp-image-636397 portrait-orientation" src="https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/TBDBAOF_EC014.jpg" alt="BATTLE OF THE NETWORK STARS XII, William Shatner, 1982" width="3071" height="4500" srcset="https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/TBDBAOF_EC014.jpg?quality=86&amp;strip=all 3071w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/TBDBAOF_EC014.jpg?resize=113%2C165&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 113w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/TBDBAOF_EC014.jpg?resize=205%2C300&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 205w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/TBDBAOF_EC014.jpg?resize=768%2C1125&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 768w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/TBDBAOF_EC014.jpg?resize=699%2C1024&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 699w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/TBDBAOF_EC014.jpg?resize=1048%2C1536&amp;quality=62&amp;strip=all 1048w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/TBDBAOF_EC014.jpg?resize=1398%2C2048&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 1398w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/TBDBAOF_EC014.jpg?resize=34%2C50&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 34w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/TBDBAOF_EC014.jpg?resize=273%2C400&amp;quality=43&amp;strip=all 273w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/TBDBAOF_EC014.jpg?resize=341%2C500&amp;quality=43&amp;strip=all 341w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/TBDBAOF_EC014.jpg?resize=409%2C600&amp;quality=52&amp;strip=all 409w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/TBDBAOF_EC014.jpg?resize=117%2C172&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 117w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/TBDBAOF_EC014.jpg?resize=159%2C233&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 159w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/TBDBAOF_EC014.jpg?resize=242%2C354&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 242w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/TBDBAOF_EC014.jpg?resize=324%2C475&amp;quality=43&amp;strip=all 324w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/TBDBAOF_EC014.jpg?resize=366%2C536&amp;quality=52&amp;strip=all 366w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/TBDBAOF_EC014.jpg?resize=737%2C1080&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 737w" sizes="(max-width: 680px) calc(100vw - 60px), 660px"><figcaption><span class="figcaption-inner portrait-orientation"><span class="caption wp-caption-636397 portrait-orientation">BATTLE OF THE NETWORK STARS XII, William Shatner, 1982</span><br><span class="credit wp-credit-636397 portrait-orientation">Courtesy the Everett Collection</span></span></figcaption></figure>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Few celebrities took the competition more seriously than </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Star Trek </span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">icon William Shatner.</span></p>
<p><b>BILL GARNET: </b><span style="font-weight: 400;">&ldquo;Well, he was </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">very</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> competitive. In fact, as I remember, when he was the captain of his team, I think it was two weeks, it might&rsquo;ve even been three weeks before we were going to shoot the show. He would gather his team together and they would practice and they would determine who was going to be in the running, who was going to be in the swimming, who was going to be in the kayak. And he had it all down the morning they showed up. He knew who was going to be in every event and what heat they were going to be in or what leg. He was a captain of his team.&rdquo;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">&ldquo;He was still in the era of taking himself seriously. Although I will say that backstage during </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Battle of the Network Stars</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">, it wasn&rsquo;t crazy serious. But once the cameras rolled, he was going to be the captain of his team and he was going to win come hell or high water. He wasn&rsquo;t going to mess around. And so he was Captain Kirk of his team.&rdquo;</span></p>
<h2><b>Mark Harmon, Erin Gray and Tom Selleck</b></h2>
<figure id="attachment_636399" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-636399" style="width: 2162px" class="wp-caption aligncenter portrait-orientation"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="size-full wp-image-636399 portrait-orientation" src="https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/GettyImages-80067275.jpg" alt="Tom Selleck" width="2162" height="3000" srcset="https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/GettyImages-80067275.jpg?quality=86&amp;strip=all 2162w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/GettyImages-80067275.jpg?resize=119%2C165&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 119w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/GettyImages-80067275.jpg?resize=216%2C300&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 216w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/GettyImages-80067275.jpg?resize=768%2C1066&amp;quality=40&amp;strip=all 768w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/GettyImages-80067275.jpg?resize=738%2C1024&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 738w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/GettyImages-80067275.jpg?resize=1107%2C1536&amp;quality=43&amp;strip=all 1107w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/GettyImages-80067275.jpg?resize=1476%2C2048&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 1476w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/GettyImages-80067275.jpg?resize=36%2C50&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 36w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/GettyImages-80067275.jpg?resize=288%2C400&amp;quality=40&amp;strip=all 288w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/GettyImages-80067275.jpg?resize=360%2C500&amp;quality=40&amp;strip=all 360w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/GettyImages-80067275.jpg?resize=432%2C600&amp;quality=40&amp;strip=all 432w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/GettyImages-80067275.jpg?resize=124%2C172&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 124w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/GettyImages-80067275.jpg?resize=168%2C233&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 168w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/GettyImages-80067275.jpg?resize=255%2C354&amp;quality=40&amp;strip=all 255w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/GettyImages-80067275.jpg?resize=342%2C475&amp;quality=40&amp;strip=all 342w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/GettyImages-80067275.jpg?resize=386%2C536&amp;quality=40&amp;strip=all 386w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/GettyImages-80067275.jpg?resize=778%2C1080&amp;quality=40&amp;strip=all 778w" sizes="(max-width: 680px) calc(100vw - 60px), 660px"><figcaption><span class="figcaption-inner portrait-orientation"><span class="caption wp-caption-636399 portrait-orientation">Tom Selleck in Battle of the Network Stars</span><br><span class="credit wp-credit-636399 portrait-orientation">Barry King/WireImage</span></span></figcaption></figure>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Some competitors arrived with considerably more athletic experience than viewers might have expected.</span></p>
<p><b>BILL GARNET: </b><span style="font-weight: 400;">&ldquo;I remember Mark Harmon, who was quarterback at UCLA and big-time quarterback, and one of the events was football. I remember him coming over and saying, &lsquo;Wouldn&rsquo;t be fair if I was quarterback,&rsquo; so he ended up being one of the receivers. Gabe Kaplan was very competitive. Conrad was very competitive. So were Erin Gray and Cathy Lee Crosby, who was a very good athlete.&rdquo;</span></p>
<p><b>ERIN GRAY (actor, </b><b><i>Buck Rogers in the 25th Century</i></b><b>): </b><span style="font-weight: 400;">&ldquo;I actually learned just how competitive I am. I&rsquo;m pretty fierce.&rdquo;&nbsp;</span></p>
<p><b>BILL GARNET: </b><span style="font-weight: 400;">&ldquo;They wanted Tom Selleck, who at the time was a big star doing </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Magnum, P.I.</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> and the talent booker didn&rsquo;t think he would do it. But a friend of mine was working on </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Magnum, P.I.</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">, so I figured I&rsquo;d call him and see if he could put in a good word. I said to him, &lsquo;I&rsquo;m trying to reach Selleck to see if he&rsquo;ll do </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Battle</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">.&rsquo; And he said, &lsquo;Hold on.&rsquo; Handed the phone to Tom Selleck. I said to him, &lsquo;You don&rsquo;t know me. I&rsquo;m producing </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Battle of the Network Stars</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">.&rsquo; &lsquo;Oh my God, don&rsquo;t you understand? I went to USC on a volleyball scholarship. I&rsquo;d love to do that show.&rsquo; And he ended up doing it four times.&rdquo;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Selleck&rsquo;s first appearance also resulted in one of Garnet&rsquo;s favorite memories.</span></p>
<p><b>BILL GARNET: </b><span style="font-weight: 400;">&ldquo;If you remember, they all were supplied with Speedos, rather skimpy bathing suits. About three weeks after the first time Selleck did it, he called me up in the office and he said, &lsquo;I hope you&rsquo;re making money on this.&rsquo; I said, &lsquo;What are you talking about?&rsquo; He said, &lsquo;You don&rsquo;t know?&rsquo; I said, &lsquo;Help me out here. I don&rsquo;t know what you&rsquo;re talking about.&rsquo; He said, &lsquo;Get in your car and drive over to Westwood and go to this address.&rsquo; I drive over and there&rsquo;s a poster shop. In the front window is a picture of Tom Selleck on the starting blocks of the swimming in his Speedo with me standing next to him. So I called him back and said, &lsquo;No, I&rsquo;m not making any money off it.'&rdquo;</span></p>
<h2><b>The women became a force</b></h2>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">The series also reflected the attitudes toward women and sports in the late 1970s and early &rsquo;80s&mdash;and Garnet watched those attitudes begin to evolve.</span></p>
<p><b>BILL GARNET: </b><span style="font-weight: 400;">&ldquo;I think it was that time period really where when it came to sports, men tended to take command. And especially some of them&mdash; Robert Conrad, Telly Savalas, Gabe Kaplan, Shatner. At that time in the late &rsquo;70s, early &rsquo;80s, men looked at sports as a men&rsquo;s thing. We looked at it as when we were booking it, you needed men and women. But the women tended to play second fiddle up until a certain point. And then when they started to realize that some of these women were incredibly good athletes. There were a number of the women who, when you put them side by side with the guys&mdash;I mean, the guys were probably a little bit older, not in as good a shape. And so little by little, it grew that the women actually played a more important role as time went on.&rdquo;</span></p>
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<p><b>ERIN GRAY: </b><span style="font-weight: 400;">&ldquo;I remember they wouldn&rsquo;t let any of the women become captains, and I was really ticked. There was a gentleman who was the captain of one of the </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Battle of the Network Stars</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> that I did, and he didn&rsquo;t know the back end or the front end of a boat. I was, like, &lsquo;We&rsquo;re going to win. Okay?&rsquo; So I just took it upon myself to knock on everybody&rsquo;s door. I said, &lsquo;You lose points if you don&rsquo;t know the rules. Let&rsquo;s go over the rules right now.&rsquo; And I just took charge. Mama was going to win.&rdquo;</span></p>
<p><b>BILL GARNET: </b><span style="font-weight: 400;">&ldquo;There was no rule about men and women on the teams. I mean, in terms of whether it be the swimming or the kayak or the running, it was the captains who decided who was going to go on what leg. And it could be men against women, women against women, men against men. It didn&rsquo;t matter. That was up to the captains.&rdquo;</span></p>
<p><b>ERIN GRAY: </b><span style="font-weight: 400;">&ldquo;I remember the first time we were doing flag football with Robert Conrad and I&rsquo;m, like, &lsquo;Ugh!&rsquo; And he&rsquo;s laughing at me, but I didn&rsquo;t care. What was I thinking? Robert Conrad&rsquo;s going to knock me over with one bump. But we became good friends after that. I think he liked my spunk.&rdquo;</span></p>
<h2><b>Lynda Carter and the Standards and Practices Department</b></h2>
<figure id="attachment_636391" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-636391" style="width: 5520px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="size-full wp-image-636391" src="https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/GettyImages-2117672153.jpg" alt="American swimmer Mark Spitz in conversation with Lynda Carter in February 1977." width="5520" height="3699" srcset="https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/GettyImages-2117672153.jpg?quality=86&amp;strip=all 5520w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/GettyImages-2117672153.jpg?resize=246%2C165&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 246w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/GettyImages-2117672153.jpg?resize=300%2C201&amp;quality=43&amp;strip=all 300w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/GettyImages-2117672153.jpg?resize=768%2C515&amp;quality=43&amp;strip=all 768w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/GettyImages-2117672153.jpg?resize=1024%2C686&amp;quality=71&amp;strip=all 1024w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/GettyImages-2117672153.jpg?resize=1536%2C1029&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 1536w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/GettyImages-2117672153.jpg?resize=2048%2C1372&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 2048w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/GettyImages-2117672153.jpg?resize=50%2C34&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 50w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/GettyImages-2117672153.jpg?resize=400%2C268&amp;quality=40&amp;strip=all 400w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/GettyImages-2117672153.jpg?resize=500%2C335&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 500w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/GettyImages-2117672153.jpg?resize=600%2C402&amp;quality=40&amp;strip=all 600w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/GettyImages-2117672153.jpg?resize=270%2C180&amp;quality=43&amp;strip=all 270w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/GettyImages-2117672153.jpg?resize=257%2C172&amp;quality=43&amp;strip=all 257w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/GettyImages-2117672153.jpg?resize=348%2C233&amp;quality=43&amp;strip=all 348w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/GettyImages-2117672153.jpg?resize=528%2C354&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 528w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/GettyImages-2117672153.jpg?resize=709%2C475&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 709w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/GettyImages-2117672153.jpg?resize=800%2C536&amp;quality=43&amp;strip=all 800w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/GettyImages-2117672153.jpg?resize=1612%2C1080&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 1612w" sizes="(max-width: 680px) calc(100vw - 60px), 660px"><figcaption><span class="figcaption-inner"><span class="caption wp-caption-636391">American swimmer Mark Spitz in conversation with Lynda Carter in February 1977.</span><br><span class="credit wp-credit-636391">Michael Ochs Archives/Getty Images)</span></span></figcaption></figure>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Having dozens of television stars running around in Speedos occasionally presented challenges that had nothing to do with athletics. Garnet remembers Lynda Carter preparing for the swimming competition when someone from ABC&rsquo;s Standards and Practices department approached him.</span></p>
<p><b>BILL GARNET: </b><span style="font-weight: 400;">&ldquo;Lynda was at the pool getting ready for the swimming event. The Speedos were very tight and therefore very revealing, and the Standards and Practices person from ABC came over to me and said, &lsquo;No.&rsquo; And handed me a roll of gaffer&rsquo;s tape. I had to walk over to Lynda. She had been here before and went to her dressing room and gaffered up where she had to gaffer up.&rdquo;</span></p>
<p><b>ERIN GRAY: </b><span style="font-weight: 400;">&ldquo;On </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Silver Spoons</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">, I was constantly being told that my nipples were showing and that I should wear a bra. I hate wearing a bra, so I would just put an extra sweater on or whatever, but I was constantly getting these notes from the network. So what did they do on </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Battle of the Network Stars</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">? They gave me a bathing suit that once it got wet was completely 100% see-through. It wasn&rsquo;t just a little nipple peeking there. You could see it all. I&rsquo;m, like, &lsquo;Really, guys? Did anybody think about this?'&rdquo;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">It wasn&rsquo;t the only Standards and Practices note Garnet remembers.</span></p>
<p><b>BILL GARNET: </b><span style="font-weight: 400;">&ldquo;There were notes about shots of nipples or wet asses, but my favorite one of all time was Arte Johnson was on the show. He was doing the dunk tank, got dunked and yelled, &lsquo;Oh, sh**.&rsquo; So I got a note from the Standards and Practices person, &lsquo;Please edit out the &lsquo;Oh, sh**.&rsquo; Of course, I wrote back a note that said, &lsquo;No sh**.'&rdquo;</span></p>
<h2><b>Robin Williams goes in his own direction</b></h2>
<p><b>BILL GARNET: </b><span style="font-weight: 400;">&ldquo;Billy Crystal did it a number of times and actually co-hosted with Howard Cosell, which was great fun because Billy did an imitation of Howard. So it was Howard and Billy doing Howard. David Letterman did it once. Robin Williams did it once. The level of celebrities that did it when you look back was incredible.&rdquo;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Williams particularly sticks in Garnet&rsquo;s memory.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">&ldquo;Fortunately, I knew Robin from the days when he was at the Improv. And Robin, I mean, arguably is the most genius stand-up comedian of all time, at least in my mind.But when we were doing it, he was very good. He was very sort of quiet until we got to the final event, which was the tug-of-war. When we did the tug-of-war, we always got this big meat scale with the big round things and people would go and stand on it and then we&rsquo;d video them getting their weight.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">&ldquo;Well, Robin got on it and just went into this place where he started talking to the scale as though it was his mother for five minutes, 10 minutes. And I&rsquo;ve got other people in the production saying, &lsquo;What should we do?&rsquo; I said, &lsquo;Let him go. Robin will come back when he feels like coming back.&rsquo; And he snaps out of it and he was fine. That was Robin. He would just go to places nobody else went.&rdquo;</span></p>
<h2><b>Howard Cosell treated it like a real sport</b></h2>
<figure id="attachment_636403" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-636403" style="width: 2859px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="size-full wp-image-636403" src="https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/TBDBAOF_EC005.jpg" alt="BATTLE OF THE NETWORK STARS, Howard Cosell, Randi Oakes, May 7, 1982." width="2859" height="1812" srcset="https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/TBDBAOF_EC005.jpg?quality=86&amp;strip=all 2859w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/TBDBAOF_EC005.jpg?resize=260%2C165&amp;quality=62&amp;strip=all 260w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/TBDBAOF_EC005.jpg?resize=300%2C190&amp;quality=62&amp;strip=all 300w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/TBDBAOF_EC005.jpg?resize=768%2C487&amp;quality=57&amp;strip=all 768w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/TBDBAOF_EC005.jpg?resize=1024%2C649&amp;quality=62&amp;strip=all 1024w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/TBDBAOF_EC005.jpg?resize=1536%2C973&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 1536w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/TBDBAOF_EC005.jpg?resize=2048%2C1298&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 2048w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/TBDBAOF_EC005.jpg?resize=50%2C32&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 50w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/TBDBAOF_EC005.jpg?resize=400%2C254&amp;quality=43&amp;strip=all 400w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/TBDBAOF_EC005.jpg?resize=500%2C317&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 500w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/TBDBAOF_EC005.jpg?resize=600%2C380&amp;quality=40&amp;strip=all 600w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/TBDBAOF_EC005.jpg?resize=271%2C172&amp;quality=62&amp;strip=all 271w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/TBDBAOF_EC005.jpg?resize=368%2C233&amp;quality=43&amp;strip=all 368w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/TBDBAOF_EC005.jpg?resize=559%2C354&amp;quality=40&amp;strip=all 559w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/TBDBAOF_EC005.jpg?resize=749%2C475&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 749w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/TBDBAOF_EC005.jpg?resize=846%2C536&amp;quality=57&amp;strip=all 846w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/TBDBAOF_EC005.jpg?resize=1704%2C1080&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 1704w" sizes="(max-width: 680px) calc(100vw - 60px), 660px"><figcaption><span class="figcaption-inner"><span class="caption wp-caption-636403">BATTLE OF THE NETWORK STARS, Howard Cosell, Randi Oakes, May 7, 1982.</span><br><span class="credit wp-credit-636403">Courtesy the Everett Collection</span></span></figcaption></figure>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Overseeing much of the madness was sportscaster Howard Cosell, whose presence helped give the competition an odd kind of legitimacy.</span></p>
<p><b>BILL GARNET: </b><span style="font-weight: 400;">&ldquo;Howard was brilliant. Howard could talk to you about anything and have an opinion about everything, but he loved what he did. He loved sports, he loved being around athletes, or in this case, performers. He could do play-by-play of anything at any given moment. I mean, he was just brilliant. Howard used to show up every Saturday and Sunday morning at 6:30. He wanted to be the first one there and watch everyone arrive.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">&ldquo;And he&rsquo;d come to me, &lsquo;Billy, I&rsquo;m the biggest star out there. They all want to do this show because of me.&rsquo; For the most part, he was right. He </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">was</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> a huge star. I mean, there were a couple of years where he was voted the most loved and most hated sportscaster in the same year. But he was brilliant. Brilliant. Howard always looked at doing </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Battle of the Network Stars</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> as, &lsquo;This is true sport. They&rsquo;re not doing it for the money. They&rsquo;re doing it for the love of athletics.'&rdquo;</span></p>
<h2><b>Why it worked</b></h2>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Garnet believes one of the reasons </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Battle of the Network Stars</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> would be difficult to recreate today is the fragmentation of television itself.</span></p>
<p><b>BILL GARNET: </b><span style="font-weight: 400;">&ldquo;There were three networks then, ABC, NBC, CBS. Now there&rsquo;s broadcast, there&rsquo;s cable, there&rsquo;s pay-per-view, there&rsquo;s streaming. It would be hard to break it down into three or four teams. Also back in the day, pretty much everybody knew everybody who was on a show on ABC, NBC, CBS. Now, I&rsquo;m not even sure that other actors know everybody who&rsquo;s on every show. There are a lot of big stars who are coming out of YouTube videos and TikTok and I couldn&rsquo;t tell you 90% of them. So, you could probably do the show today, but the audience would be so disjointed because someone might know this person from TikTok, but wouldn&rsquo;t know the person from broadcast television.&rdquo;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Fifty years later, Garnet doesn&rsquo;t pretend </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Battle of the Network Stars</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> was intended to change television or the world. In fact, that was precisely the point.</span></p>
<p><b>BILL GARNET: </b><span style="font-weight: 400;">&ldquo;</span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Battle of the Network Stars</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> wasn&rsquo;t just a sports show. It was celebrities and it was a fantasy. People would come up to me when they were doing the show and say, &lsquo;How do you justify doing something so meaningless?&rsquo; And I would say to them, &lsquo;Look, if I can provide mindless entertainment where people can sit in front of their television for two hours every six months and smile at their television, and five minutes after it&rsquo;s over, they don&rsquo;t even remember what they watched, that&rsquo;s a vacation. That&rsquo;s providing a great service.&rsquo; Why does everything have to be so damn serious?&rdquo;</span></p>
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		<title>Charlene Tilton Reflects on Why 'Dallas' Still Captivates Fans Nearly 50 Years Later (Exclusive)</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[More than 35 years after Dallas ended its remarkable 13-season run and 48 years after it started, the saga of the Ewing family continues to attract devoted fans around the world. The proof of that lies in this Sunday&#8217;s episode of MeTV&#8217;s Collector&#8217;s Call, where host Lisa Whelchel visits Oklahoma superfan David Goodspeed&#8217;s extraordinary collection [&#8230;]]]></description>
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<?xml encoding="utf-8" ?><html><body><p><span style="font-weight: 400;">More than 35 years after </span><a href="https://www.womansworld.com/entertainment/tv-shows/dallas-real-life-couples-soap-opera-stars-love-stories" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Dallas</span></i></a><span style="font-weight: 400;"> ended its remarkable 13-season run and 48 years after it started, the saga of the Ewing family continues to attract devoted fans around the world. The proof of that lies in this Sunday&rsquo;s episode of MeTV&rsquo;s </span><a href="https://www.metv.com/collectors-call" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Collector&rsquo;s Call</span></i></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">, where host <a href="https://www.womansworld.com/entertainment/classic-tv/inside-one-mans-charlies-angels-collectibles-worth-thousands" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Lisa Whelchel</a> visits Oklahoma superfan David Goodspeed&rsquo;s extraordinary collection of </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Dallas</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> memorabilia. Joined by<a href="https://www.womansworld.com/entertainment/celebrities/charlene-tilton-talks-dallas-foster-care-and-larry-hagman-2" target="_blank" rel="noopener"> Charlene Tilton</a>, who played Lucy Ewing throughout much of the series, the episode revisits everything from screen-worn costumes and signed posters to cast transportation plaques and other rare pieces of television history.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">For Tilton, however, the collection represents something even more meaningful, with every prop and costume serving as a reminder of a series that became a worldwide phenomenon&mdash;and one that continues to win over new generations of viewers.</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-weight: 400;"><strong>CHARLENE TILTON: </strong>&ldquo;While we were doing the show itself, we were just always so busy. </span><span style="font-weight: 400;">There was always press and things, but I was young and I was just so busy that I didn&rsquo;t really notice. But now that I&rsquo;m older and </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Dallas</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> is on Amazon, people are discovering it for the first time. I mean, people my age when I started the show come up to me and love it. And then there are people re-watching it for the 10th time. They love it.&rdquo;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">&ldquo;I have to tell you&mdash;actually, I&rsquo;ll show you. I had a fan make me this recently&mdash;it&rsquo;s a Lucy Ewing Barbie doll, and then there&rsquo;s a lunchbox featuring Lucy with her yellow sports car. I mean, people are so nice. I brought this for the episode, but Dolce &amp; Gabbana made this shirt. It says, &lsquo;Lucy Ewing, Bringing Sexy Back Since 1978.&rsquo; Dolce &amp; Gabbana was selling this in their stores. It really </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">is</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> a phenomenon.&rdquo;</span></p>
<h2><strong>Preparing for Southfork Experience: an official fan convention celebrating the legacy of &lsquo;Dallas&rsquo;</strong></h2>
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<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">On top of everything else, Tilton is preparing for February&rsquo;s Southfork Experience, where surviving cast members will once again reunite with thousands of fans from around the world in Texas. To get ready, she&rsquo;s given herself a very specific assignment: watch every episode of </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Dallas</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> from beginning to end. In doing so, she&rsquo;s come away with an even greater appreciation for the work she and her castmates did all those years ago.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;"><strong>CHARLENE TILTON: </strong>&ldquo;I&rsquo;m starting to watch them, and the performances are literally some of the best acting I&rsquo;ve ever seen. And I have to say, I was pleased with a lot of my performances because I didn&rsquo;t know. But I&rsquo;m older now and can take a step back from it. We were genuinely a close-knit group, a close-knit family, and that chemistry translated. There was no acting in that. It really was there; you can&rsquo;t manufacture it.&rdquo;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Looking back, she&rsquo;s struck by how willing the series&rsquo; writers were to tackle issues that television rarely addressed at the time. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;"><strong>CHARLENE TILTON: </strong>&ldquo;One of my favorite storylines for Lucy was when she was engaged to get married to Kit Mainwaring, who was the son of the Mainwaring family, another very wealthy oil family. J.R. thought this would be great to have Lucy marry him and join the two oil family fortunes. Well, Kit decided to be true to himself and said, &lsquo;Lucy, I have to tell you this because I love you. I can&rsquo;t marry you. I&rsquo;m going to confess it to you: I&rsquo;m a homosexual.&rsquo; At that time, they couldn&rsquo;t even use the word &lsquo;gay,&rsquo; and the writers handled it so beautifully. Kit said, &lsquo;Lucy, J.R. knows, and he&rsquo;s going to cause a scandal. Basically, J.R.&rsquo;s going to out me.&rsquo; And I said, &lsquo;No, I&rsquo;ll handle J.R.&rsquo; Lucy handled J.R. and protected Kit Mainwaring.&rdquo;</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">&ldquo;Well, it&rsquo;s all so relevant now. Sue Ellen&rsquo;s alcoholism, where Lucy was addicted to pills and my character got pregnant and had an abortion&mdash;we&rsquo;re still talking about these issues, but they were handled back then on </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Dallas</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">.&rdquo;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Looking back, Tilton laughs when she&rsquo;s asked whether she and the rest of the cast realized they were making television history. The answer is, of course, that no one could have at the time. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;"><strong>CHARLENE TILTON: </strong>&ldquo;We couldn&rsquo;t go anywhere at that time because of the paparazzi. I think now people control their own social media; they put everything out that they want out there themselves, which is kind of a nice thing in a way that they can control the narrative of their own lives and career, but back then you couldn&rsquo;t. So we were just being chased and traveling all over. And, of course, </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">everyone</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> wanted to know&hellip;&rdquo;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">The unstated question of exactly what they wanted to know was in reference to television&rsquo;s most famous cliffhanger: who shot J.R.?</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-weight: 400;"><strong>CHARLENE TILTON: </strong>&ldquo;I genuinely did not know. Larry Hagman was very smart; he rode that wave to negotiate himself a wonderful contract and good for him. And the frenzy wasn&rsquo;t limited to the United States. There&rsquo;s news footage from back then of their bringing film rolls to the UK on private planes. It was crazy.&rdquo;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Patrick Duffy, who played Bobby Ewing, recently reminded her of something she&rsquo;d never really considered during the show&rsquo;s original run: </span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;"><strong>CHARLENE TILTON: </strong>&ldquo;When </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Dallas </span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">went worldwide, it went into about 186 countries simultaneously. So it didn&rsquo;t just trickle out, it went out all at once and became a global phenomenon.&rdquo;&nbsp;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">One that is still growing, which is one of the reasons that stepping into David Goodspeed&rsquo;s remarkable </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Dallas</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> collection for </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Collector&rsquo;s Call</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> proved to be such an unexpectedly moving experience.</span></p>

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<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Those discoveries are another reminder that while </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Dallas</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> may have ended its network run in 1991, its story is still being written through the fans who continue to celebrate it. </span><span style="font-weight: 400;">Years ago, <a href="https://www.womansworld.com/entertainment/celebrities/mary-martin-and-larry-hagman-inside-their-complicated-relationship" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Larry Hagman</a> quietly predicted exactly what would happen.</span></p>
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<?xml encoding="utf-8" ?><html><body><p><span style="font-weight: 400;">In the 1960s, television and movies were still viewed as two very different worlds. TV actors rarely managed to make the leap to becoming movie stars, while established film actors generally looked down on the small screen. <a href="https://www.womansworld.com/entertainment/classic-tv/don-knotts-how-childhood-trauma-created-the-legend-of-barney-fife" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Don Knotts</a> was one of the few performers who successfully crossed that divide. Despite becoming one of television&rsquo;s most beloved comedians as Deputy Barney Fife on </span><a href="https://www.womansworld.com/tag/andy-griffith-show" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">The Andy Griffith Show</span></i></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">, he never lost sight of his ambition to headline feature films.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">That opportunity came sooner than expected. Knotts had joined </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">The Andy Griffith Show</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> believing that he and <a href="https://www.womansworld.com/entertainment/celebrities/andy-griffith-dark-side-from-movie-flop-to-the-andy-griffith-show" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Andy Griffith</a> would leave after five seasons. While Griffith ultimately chose to remain when the network made it financially worthwhile, Knotts stuck with the original plan after Universal offered him a five-picture contract. Although he continued to return as Barney for several guest appearances during the series&rsquo; final years and once on </span><a href="https://www.womansworld.com/entertainment/classic-tv/ken-berry-his-life-mayberry-rfd-and-tv-legacy" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Mayberry R.F.D.</span></i></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">, his focus had shifted to building a movie career&mdash;a gamble that ultimately paid off.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Knotts wasn&rsquo;t starting from scratch when he signed with Universal. He had already appeared alongside Andy Griffith in the 1958 film adaptation of </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">No Time for Sergeants</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">, the Broadway hit that first brought the two comedians together and sparked a lifelong friendship. Supporting roles followed in </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Wake Me When It&rsquo;s Over</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> (1960) and </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">The Last Time I Saw Archie</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> (1961), before he joined the all-star ensemble of </span><a href="https://www.womansworld.com/entertainment/movies/behind-the-scenes-facts-about-its-a-mad-mad-mad-mad-world" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">It&rsquo;s a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World</span></i></a><span style="font-weight: 400;"> in 1963 as the appropriately named &ldquo;Nervous Driver.&rdquo; That same year, he appeared opposite Doris Day and James Garner in </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Move Over, Darling</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">, paving the way for his first true starring vehicle, 1964&rsquo;s </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">The Incredible Mr. Limpet</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">.</span></p><body><div id="gist-answers-widget" class="gist-answers-widget">
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			One generation of television watchers knows him as Deputy Sheriff Barney Fife on The Andy Griffith Show. Another recognizes him as landlord Ralph Furley on Three&rsquo;s Company, with additional viewers meeting him for the first time in the recurring role of Les &ldquo;Ace&rdquo; Calhoun, the nosy neighbor of Andy Griffith&rsquo;s Ben Matlock, on Matlock. But [&hellip;]		</div>
	
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<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">As part of our ongoing effort to preserve classic television history, we sat down with Don&rsquo;s daughter, Karen Knotts, to look back not only at her father&rsquo;s remarkable career, but also at the stories behind many of his best-known performances. A comedian herself, Karen tours with her acclaimed one-woman show, </span><a href="https://karenknotts.com/tied-up-in-knotts-show/" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Tied Up in Knotts</span></i></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">, an affectionate and deeply personal portrait of growing up with one of America&rsquo;s most beloved comic actors. Here, she shares her memories of the roles that defined Don Knotts&rsquo; extraordinary career.</span></p>
<h2><b>&lsquo;The Andy Griffith Show&rsquo; (1960&ndash;68)</b></h2>
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<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Don achieved his greatest fame as Deputy Barney Fife, forever earning a place in television history alongside Andy Griffith&rsquo;s Sheriff Andy Taylor in the fictional town of Mayberry.</span></p>
<p><b>KAREN KNOTTS: </b><span style="font-weight: 400;">&ldquo;We didn&rsquo;t see him a lot, because he worked 10, 12 hours a day. And when he was home, he was always holed up in his room working on his lines and stuff like that.&rdquo;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">From the outset, Don and Andy Griffith had agreed they would spend five seasons on </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">The Andy Griffith Show</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> before moving on to other opportunities. When that fifth season arrived, however, their paths diverged. Andy accepted an offer to remain with the series, while Don honored the original plan after Universal came calling with a five-picture contract.</span></p>
<p><b>KAREN KNOTTS: </b><span style="font-weight: 400;">&ldquo;Put yourself in his place. That show was hard, hard work. Then think of the character, and also the energy that it took to play him. Imagine the intensity, plus the level of perfection that was being strived for. Then, all of a sudden, you get offered a five-picture deal to be a star in your own right and make all the decisions.&rdquo;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Although he left as a regular cast member, Don would return for five guest appearances during the show&rsquo;s remaining seasons.</span></p>
<h2><b>&lsquo;The Incredible Mr. Limpet&rsquo; (1964)</b></h2>
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<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Blending live action with animation years before it became commonplace, </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">The Incredible Mr. Limpet</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> casts Don as Henry Limpet, a mild-mannered civilian who, during World War II, is transformed into a fish while retaining his human mind. After adapting to his remarkable new life, he becomes an unlikely ally of the U.S. Navy, helping track down and destroy Nazi submarines.</span></p>
<p><b>KAREN KNOTTS: </b><span style="font-weight: 400;">&ldquo;If not the first, it was certainly one of the first films to combine live action with animation. Maybe Disney did one before, but this was very early on. In those days, films always debuted in New York, and it got a terrible, crushing review there that it never recovered from. That review destroyed the movie and it got no box office after that. The man who produced it, John C. Rose, went to Mexico after that, retired and never made another movie again. Dad wasn&rsquo;t frustrated about the movie, because it was still a great piece of work. I don&rsquo;t think he was expecting anything major out of it.&rdquo;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Karen fondly remembers visiting the set of </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">The Incredible Mr. Limpet</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">, where the magic of moviemaking first inspired her to pursue acting herself.</span></p>
<p><b>KAREN KNOTTS: </b><span style="font-weight: 400;">&ldquo;I remember seeing Carole Cook putting the glasses on the face of the imaginary fish. Actually what they had in front of her was just a box full of junk that was raised up on a crane so that it would be at the proper eye level for her. Then she could lean forward and put the glasses on him. In the end, it was a very touching scene; she was such a very good actress. So she leaned forward and put the glasses on the fish, and the way she did that made me realize that I wanted to be an actress because I saw the power of that moment, how she made it real while just talking to a box of stuff.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">&ldquo;The funny thing is that we had a 16-millimeter projector in our house. Every time my brother would thread the movie and we&rsquo;d watch it, when it came to that part where my dad turned into a fish, I would start to cry. I don&rsquo;t know why. My dad was obviously still alive&mdash;he was actually in the same room with me&mdash;and he wasn&rsquo;t a fish, but it just made me sad.&rdquo;</span></p>
<h2><b>&lsquo;The Ghost and Mr. Chicken&rsquo; (1966)</b></h2>
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<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">The first release under Don&rsquo;s five-picture Universal contract gave him his first opportunity to carry a major studio comedy. He stars as Luther Heggs, a timid typesetter and aspiring newspaper reporter who volunteers to spend the night in a supposedly haunted mansion, hoping the assignment will earn him both a byline and the attention of Alma Parker (Joan Staley).</span></p>
<p><b>KAREN KNOTTS: </b><span style="font-weight: 400;">&ldquo;He was absolutely terrified, excited, overwhelmed&mdash;everything about this movie because it was the one he left </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">The Andy Griffith Show</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> to do. I mean, he left for the five-picture deal, but on this one I just remember him being extremely nervous, pacing around the house, and just completely consumed with it. He had his own little bungalow at Universal Studios with an office and a secretary. He would go down there to work with the writers. He actually hired Jim Fritzell and Everett Greenbaum, who were two of the top writers on </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">The Andy Griffith Show</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">. Part of his nervousness is that he didn&rsquo;t have the safety net of </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">The Andy Griffith Show</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">. There, the producers were running the show and Andy was kind of like the kindly headmaster, but none of that was there now. It was him.&rdquo;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">What surprised Karen most was how quickly </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">The Ghost and Mr. Chicken</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> was made. Shot in just 17 days on a modest budget, the film nevertheless became one of Don Knotts&rsquo; signature comedies.</span></p>
<p><b>KAREN KNOTTS: </b><span style="font-weight: 400;">&ldquo;It was so unbelievable and now it&rsquo;s a classic film. And it was exciting for him, because he was stepping out and being his own boss now, and that was scary, but the film&rsquo;s success was a huge deal. What&rsquo;s interesting is that the first draft of the script wasn&rsquo;t working very well, so Dad called Andy Griffith in to be a story consultant. That&rsquo;s a little-known fact, that Andy Griffith was one of the best story consultants in the business. He had a mind for stories that was absolutely unbelievable, and that&rsquo;s probably one of the reasons why those stories on </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">The Andy Griffith Show</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> were so tight. Every story had a beginning, middle and end, and an arc, </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">and</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> surprises. I think a lot of that was Andy&rsquo;s doing.&rdquo;</span></p>
<h2><b>&lsquo;The Reluctant Astronaut&rsquo; (1967)</b></h2>
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<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">For his next starring role, Don left haunted houses behind for the Space Race. In </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">The Reluctant Astronaut</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">, he plays Roy Fleming, a carnival ride operator who lands a janitor&rsquo;s job at NASA&rsquo;s Manned Spacecraft Center in Houston before a series of comic mishaps unexpectedly launches him into orbit. Once again, the screenplay came from former </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">The Andy Griffith Show</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> writers Jim Fritzell and Everett Greenbaum. With </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">The Ghost and Mr. Chicken</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> proving to be a hit, Don entered production with considerably more confidence than he had on his first Universal film.</span></p>
<p><b>KAREN KNOTTS: </b><span style="font-weight: 400;">&ldquo;He kind of knew the ropes now. One interesting thing about </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">The Reluctant Astronaut</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> is that he actually went to NASA to poke around the rockets there. There&rsquo;s a picture of him somewhere up there in the rocket, looking around. It&rsquo;s possible it wasn&rsquo;t research and that he was invited there.&rdquo;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">One of Karen&rsquo;s favorite memories from the production involved the old-school movie magic used long before CGI became commonplace.</span></p>
<p><b>KAREN KNOTTS: </b><span style="font-weight: 400;">&ldquo;In those days when you had to have things lift off the ground in a rocket, like a peanut butter tube or something, it would float because of strings that were attached to it and lifted it up. Nowadays, with CGI, they don&rsquo;t need to do it that way anymore. But when I was a kid, I loved the fact that you could see the strings on set, but they were gone when the movie came out.&rdquo;</span></p>
<h2><b>&lsquo;The Shakiest Gun in the West&rsquo; (1968)</b></h2>
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<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">For his third Universal comedy, Don headed to the Old West in </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">The Shakiest Gun in the West</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">. He stars as Jesse W. Haywood, a newly minted dentist whose arrival on the frontier quickly lands him in the middle of a dangerous gun-smuggling scheme alongside a mysterious woman played by Barbara Rhoades.</span></p>
<p><b>KAREN KNOTTS: </b><span style="font-weight: 400;">&ldquo;Those films really did cover a lot of ground dealing with a lot of different themes and topics, so you never got bored. I mean, his performance in </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">The Shakiest Gun in the West</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> was hysterical. They came up with some great gags. This was a remake of a Bob Hope film called </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">The Paleface</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">. Barbara Rhoades was a contract player at Universal, and she didn&rsquo;t have a very good acting background. My father said she wasn&rsquo;t really &lsquo;cutting the mustard&rsquo; in that role, so he worked with her a lot. He taught her how to act, basically, and in the end she did a fine job. But she didn&rsquo;t have enough training at the time, and she was beautiful and was cast. Dad didn&rsquo;t have any choice in who was cast in the role.&rdquo;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Karen also appeared on the set of </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">The Shakiest Gun in the West</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">, and one memory still makes her laugh.</span></p>
<p><b>KAREN KNOTTS: </b><span style="font-weight: 400;">&ldquo;I think I actually put my hand down on the bar and kind of wrecked the shot. Also my brother and I were extras in that moment; we were extras in a lot of them. I was so excited to be on the set for this one that I couldn&rsquo;t stop smiling. I was just happy and kept smiling. So I&rsquo;m standing there in the background during this shootout Dad has with the gunslinger, and I&rsquo;m smiling. The crowd is supposed to be terrified. I think I was 11 or 12. So in between takes, the costume lady comes over to me and wanted to change my outfit a little bit. So they gave me this Western hat. It was big and flat with a wide brim, and the hat covered my face. It put my face in shadow, so you couldn&rsquo;t see me smiling. Oops. My brother and I were hamming it up like crazy on the set of that movie. We were all over the place, running around, playing around on the sets like we were cowboys and Indians, and it was beautiful.&rdquo;</span></p>
<h2><b>&lsquo;The Love God?&rsquo; (1969)</b></h2>
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<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">By the fourth film in his Universal contract, the studio was eager to move Don beyond the wholesome image audiences had come to expect. </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">The Love God?</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> cast him as Abner Peacock IV, the mild-mannered publisher of a struggling birdwatching magazine who is unwittingly transformed into the figurehead of a risqu&eacute; publishing empire&mdash;a role that effectively turned him into an unlikely Hugh Hefner-style celebrity.</span></p>
<p><b>KAREN KNOTTS: </b><span style="font-weight: 400;">&ldquo;This was his fourth picture in the deal, so by this point, they had three in the can and they were all successes, generating a nice bit of profit there. Because of that, the studio wasn&rsquo;t paying too much attention anymore to the scripts and that sort of thing. So this script, written by Nat Hiken, comes in and in it Dad plays this guy, Abner Peacock IV, who has a bird magazine that&rsquo;s failing, and he can&rsquo;t get enough funding for it. These gangsters, who run a porno ring with a dirty magazine, decide to buy out his magazine so they can put their own content in it. And they convince him to become the symbol of the magazine, and they basically turn him into Hugh Hefner.&rdquo;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">&ldquo;With all due respect, it is difficult to imagine Don in the role of a Hugh Hefner type. And that was the problem. Everybody thought of him as a squeaky-clean guy, which he had always been. I mean, this was all comical and a satire, of course, but all of a sudden the studio didn&rsquo;t know where the audience was going to be. They had him in these outrageous costumes&mdash;like the ultimate 1960s outrageous Nehru jackets and hats&hellip; I can&rsquo;t even describe these outfits that they had him in. Plus they had a bevy of women following him around from city to city, while he&rsquo;s totally naive about what&rsquo;s going on. Plus, Anne Francis plays a woman trying to facilitate all this, who tries to seduce Abner. At the same time, he&rsquo;s got a girl at home.&rdquo;</span></p>

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<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Karen enjoyed visiting the set and seeing the lavish lifestyle being created for Abner Peacock, but she also believes the film faced an uphill battle almost from the beginning.</span></p>
<p><b>KAREN KNOTTS: </b><span style="font-weight: 400;">&ldquo;Instead of letting Dad look over the different drafts of the script, Nat kept saying, &lsquo;No, no, you can&rsquo;t look at this until it&rsquo;s finished.&rsquo; So that drove my dad crazy, because he was one of those nervous people who would say, &lsquo;I want to know what I&rsquo;m getting myself into!&rsquo; It took Nat forever to write it, and when it was finally finished, they shot it. Afterwards the studio finally realized what the movie was about and they were stunned. They didn&rsquo;t really want to promote it, so they didn&rsquo;t. It got very little publicity and came and went as a result, with very few people even knowing it existed. I honestly don&rsquo;t know how Dad felt about it, but he was always kind of frustrated with his squeaky-clean image. He loved being Barney Fife and all that, but then, as we got into the late &rsquo;60s, everything had this sexual innuendo to it. It was the days of free love and all this stuff, so he was hindered by that because of his image. Many of the sketches they wrote for him on variety shows had to be toned down, because they didn&rsquo;t want to offend his public, which he thought was a little bit unnecessary.&rdquo;</span></p>
<h2><b>&lsquo;How to Frame a Figg&rsquo; (1971)</b></h2>
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<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Following the more adult-themed </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">The Love God?</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">, Don returned to the kind of family comedy that had made him a favorite with audiences. In </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">How to Frame a Figg</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">, he stars as Hollis Figg, a well-meaning but bumbling municipal bookkeeper whose unexpected promotion threatens to unravel a corruption scheme engineered by his own superiors. While Karen admits she doesn&rsquo;t remember much about the production itself, she does recall her father reflecting on what the film ultimately represented in his career.</span></p>
<p><b>KAREN KNOTTS: </b><span style="font-weight: 400;">&ldquo;I don&rsquo;t remember very much about this one, but I remember Dad saying that that was the end of his film career such as it was, because the family picture era had ended at that point. The variety shows were coming to an end, too. Hippies were prominent and it changed the whole texture of the way they were marketing things. So that was kind of the end of an era for him. But he did the five pictures, they were successful and he was very happy, because it established him as a movie star and somebody who could carry a movie.&rdquo;</span></p>
<h2><b>Teaming up with Tim Conway</b></h2>
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<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">After a few quieter years in film, Don found a perfect comic partner in Tim Conway. Disney teamed the two together for the 1975 hit </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">The Apple Dumpling Gang</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">, and audiences responded so enthusiastically that they reunited for </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Gus</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> (1976), </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">The Apple Dumpling Gang Rides Again</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> (1979), </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">The Prize Fighter</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> (1979) and </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">The Private Eyes</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> (1980). Looking back, Karen believes the pairing was nothing short of inspired.</span></p>
<p><b>KAREN KNOTTS: </b><span style="font-weight: 400;">&ldquo;Disney put Dad and Tim together, and whoever came up with that combination was brilliant. He was ecstatic making those films, especially the </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Apple Dumpling</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> films. He absolutely adored Tim Conway, and they were great friends. Tim did ad-lib a lot and he wrote a lot, too, so my dad had to kind of learn to adapt to Tim and learn to improvise a bit. He was comfortable doing it as long as he was with Tim.&rdquo;</span></p>
<h2><b>&lsquo;Three&rsquo;s Company&rsquo;</b><b> (1979&ndash;84)</b></h2>
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<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">While Don continued appearing in feature films, it was television that would once again redefine his career. Joining ABC&rsquo;s hit sitcom </span><a href="https://www.womansworld.com/tag/threes-company" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Three&rsquo;s Company</span></i></a><span style="font-weight: 400;"> as the eccentric landlord Ralph Furley, he introduced himself to a new generation of viewers. Sharing the screen with John Ritter, Joyce DeWitt and Suzanne Somers, Don once again proved why he was one of television&rsquo;s most gifted comic performers.</span></p>
<p><b>KAREN KNOTTS: </b><span style="font-weight: 400;">&ldquo;What was wonderful about the show is that it introduced him to a whole new generation who was discovering him. That was such a wonderful thing because he just kept coming back. It&rsquo;s like </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">The Andy Griffith Show</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> touched one generation, </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">The Apple Dumpling Gang</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> touched another and </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Three&rsquo;s Company</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> reached a whole different audience. So in every phase of his career, he became known to a new age group of people. It was fantastic.&rdquo;</span></p>
<h2><b>A Career That Never Stood Still</b></h2>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Whether he was making television history as Barney Fife, headlining Universal comedies, teaming with Tim Conway or delighting audiences as Ralph Furley, Don Knotts rarely looked back on past successes. Instead, he threw himself completely into whatever project came next.</span></p>
<p><b>KAREN KNOTTS:</b><span style="font-weight: 400;"> &ldquo;He just looked at things as one project or another. He never was one to go back and look at stuff from the past. In fact, I don&rsquo;t remember ever seeing him watch </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">The Andy Griffith Show</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">. He loved the show, but he would just look at each new project for what it was and take it for what it was. And dive into that particular project. That&rsquo;s just how he functioned.&rdquo;</span></p>

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<?xml encoding="utf-8" ?><html><body><p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Today, it&rsquo;s pretty much expected that late-night hosts like Jimmy Kimmel, the &ldquo;late&rdquo; <a href="https://www.womansworld.com/entertainment/celebrities/inside-stephen-colberts-marriage-to-wife-evelyn-mcgee" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Stephen Colbert</a> and Jimmy Fallon&mdash;or the cast of </span><a href="https://www.womansworld.com/entertainment/tv-shows/15-behind-the-scenes-facts-about-snl-on-the-shows-anniversary" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Saturday Night Live</span></i></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">&mdash;will take aim at the President of the United States, Congress, government policy and just about anything else making headlines. Political satire has become so commonplace that it&rsquo;s no longer viewed as particularly daring; it&rsquo;s simply part of television&rsquo;s comedic landscape. But that certainly wasn&rsquo;t the case in the late 1960s.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">At a time when the nation&rsquo;s television networks generally avoided controversy, especially during prime time, one series was willing to challenge the status quo week after week. </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">, hosted by brothers Dick and Tom Smothers, blended music, sketch comedy and increasingly pointed social and political commentary in ways network television had rarely attempted before. In the process, it not only changed the boundaries of what television comedy could say, but also ignited a battle with CBS that ultimately brought the series to an early end.</span></p>
<p><b>DAVID BIANCULLI (author, </b><a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/1439101175?lv=shuf&amp;channelId=500&amp;plpRedirect=mhFallback" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><b><i>Dangerously Funny: The Uncensored Story of The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour</i></b></a><b>): </b><span style="font-weight: 400;">&ldquo;You think about all these people and their political humor, and they&rsquo;re either on cable or late night. What makes it so amazing to me was that the Smothers Brothers were doing it in the middle of prime time on Sunday nights, then television&rsquo;s biggest viewing night of the week. And for a while they were among the most popular shows on all of television. I mean, nobody&rsquo;s really replicated that in terms of satirical political comedy in more than 50 years. So the number of people who are watching Jimmy Kimmel is maybe a couple of million, and then it spreads as far as it does through social media, YouTube and various clips. But for </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">, everyone was tuning in at one time. Many millions of people.&rdquo;</span></p><body><div id="gist-answers-widget" class="gist-answers-widget">
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<figure id="attachment_631955" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-631955" style="width: 1024px" class="wp-caption aligncenter portrait-orientation"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="size-full wp-image-631955 portrait-orientation" src="https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/07/TSDSMBR_EC077.jpg" alt="MY BROTHER THE ANGEL, (aka THE SMOTHERS BROTHERS SHOW), from left: Dick Smothers, Tom Smothers (1965), 1965-66. " width="1024" height="1555" srcset="https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/07/TSDSMBR_EC077.jpg?quality=86&amp;strip=all 1976w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/07/TSDSMBR_EC077.jpg?resize=109%2C165&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 109w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/07/TSDSMBR_EC077.jpg?resize=198%2C300&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 198w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/07/TSDSMBR_EC077.jpg?resize=768%2C1166&amp;quality=40&amp;strip=all 768w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/07/TSDSMBR_EC077.jpg?resize=674%2C1024&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 674w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/07/TSDSMBR_EC077.jpg?resize=1012%2C1536&amp;quality=43&amp;strip=all 1012w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/07/TSDSMBR_EC077.jpg?resize=1349%2C2048&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 1349w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/07/TSDSMBR_EC077.jpg?resize=33%2C50&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 33w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/07/TSDSMBR_EC077.jpg?resize=263%2C400&amp;quality=43&amp;strip=all 263w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/07/TSDSMBR_EC077.jpg?resize=329%2C500&amp;quality=43&amp;strip=all 329w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/07/TSDSMBR_EC077.jpg?resize=395%2C600&amp;quality=40&amp;strip=all 395w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/07/TSDSMBR_EC077.jpg?resize=113%2C172&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 113w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/07/TSDSMBR_EC077.jpg?resize=153%2C233&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 153w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/07/TSDSMBR_EC077.jpg?resize=233%2C354&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 233w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/07/TSDSMBR_EC077.jpg?resize=313%2C475&amp;quality=43&amp;strip=all 313w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/07/TSDSMBR_EC077.jpg?resize=353%2C536&amp;quality=40&amp;strip=all 353w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/07/TSDSMBR_EC077.jpg?resize=711%2C1080&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 711w" sizes="(max-width: 680px) calc(100vw - 60px), 660px"><figcaption><span class="figcaption-inner portrait-orientation"><span class="caption wp-caption-631955 portrait-orientation">MY BROTHER THE ANGEL, (aka THE SMOTHERS BROTHERS SHOW), from left: Dick Smothers, Tom Smothers (1965), 1965-66.</span><br><span class="credit wp-credit-631955 portrait-orientation">Gene Trindl / TV Guide / courtesy Everett Collection</span></span></figcaption></figure>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Born in 1937 and 1939, respectively, Tom and Dick Smothers grew up in the shadow of tragedy. Their father, Thomas B. Smothers Jr., a West Point graduate and U.S. Army officer stationed on Governors Island in New York Harbor when the boys were born, died during World War II while being transported from a Japanese prisoner-of-war camp in Fukuoka to another camp in Mukden, Manchukuo.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">As young adults, the brothers combined their love of folk music with an offbeat style of comedy, building an act that revolved around sibling rivalry and Tom&rsquo;s unforgettable refrain to Dick: &ldquo;Mom always liked you best!&rdquo;</span></p>
<h2>&lsquo;The Smothers Brothers Show&rsquo;</h2>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Their breakthrough came in 1959 with a successful engagement at San Francisco&rsquo;s famed Purple Onion nightclub, which led to a string of popular comedy albums. National television exposure followed with an appearance on </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">The Jack Paar Show</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> in 1961, and four years later CBS cast them in their first starring vehicle, the sitcom </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">The Smothers Brothers Show</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">. The series featured Dick as a carefree bachelor and Tom as an angel sent to Earth to help guide his brother toward a more responsible life.</span></p>
<figure id="attachment_631956" aria-describedby="caption-attachment-631956" style="width: 1024px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="size-full wp-image-631956" src="https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/07/PSDSMBR_EC021.jpg" alt="The Smothers Brothers, from left: Dick Smothers, Tommy Smothers, April 24, 1964. " width="1024" height="672" srcset="https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/07/PSDSMBR_EC021.jpg?quality=86&amp;strip=all 3000w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/07/PSDSMBR_EC021.jpg?resize=252%2C165&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 252w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/07/PSDSMBR_EC021.jpg?resize=300%2C197&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 300w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/07/PSDSMBR_EC021.jpg?resize=768%2C504&amp;quality=81&amp;strip=all 768w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/07/PSDSMBR_EC021.jpg?resize=1024%2C672&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 1024w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/07/PSDSMBR_EC021.jpg?resize=1536%2C1008&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 1536w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/07/PSDSMBR_EC021.jpg?resize=2048%2C1343&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 2048w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/07/PSDSMBR_EC021.jpg?resize=50%2C33&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 50w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/07/PSDSMBR_EC021.jpg?resize=400%2C262&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 400w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/07/PSDSMBR_EC021.jpg?resize=500%2C328&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 500w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/07/PSDSMBR_EC021.jpg?resize=600%2C394&amp;quality=76&amp;strip=all 600w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/07/PSDSMBR_EC021.jpg?resize=262%2C172&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 262w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/07/PSDSMBR_EC021.jpg?resize=355%2C233&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 355w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/07/PSDSMBR_EC021.jpg?resize=540%2C354&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 540w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/07/PSDSMBR_EC021.jpg?resize=724%2C475&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 724w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/07/PSDSMBR_EC021.jpg?resize=817%2C536&amp;quality=81&amp;strip=all 817w, https://www.womansworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/07/PSDSMBR_EC021.jpg?resize=1646%2C1080&amp;quality=86&amp;strip=all 1646w" sizes="(max-width: 680px) calc(100vw - 60px), 660px"><figcaption><span class="figcaption-inner"><span class="caption wp-caption-631956">The Smothers Brothers, from left: Dick Smothers, Tommy Smothers, April 24, 1964.</span><br><span class="credit wp-credit-631956">Jay Thompson / TV Guide / courtesy Everett Collection</span></span></figcaption></figure>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Although the sitcom lasted just one season&mdash;largely because it failed to capitalize on the brothers&rsquo; winning blend of music and comedy&mdash;CBS executives remained convinced they had star potential. Rather than cutting ties, the network offered them a one-hour variety series. When </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> debuted as a midseason replacement in January 1967, there was little indication that it would soon become one of the most influential&mdash;and controversial&mdash;programs in television history.</span></p>
<p><b>GEOFFREY MARK (pop culture historian): </b><span style="font-weight: 400;">&ldquo;They&rsquo;d failed in a sitcom for CBS, but they still had a contract. CBS looked at them as a pair of funny folk singers and gave them a variety show. Nobody expected it to become what it became.&rdquo;&nbsp;</span></p>
<h2>&lsquo;The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour&rsquo; arrives</h2>
<p><b>DAVID BIANCULLI: </b><span style="font-weight: 400;">&ldquo;It was a mid-season replacement series thrown on by CBS simply because one of the most popular variety shows of a few years before, </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">The Gary Moore Show</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">&mdash;which is where Carol Burnett came from&mdash;had stopped production a couple of times because Gary needed a rest, but then came back in 1966 on CBS and got killed in the ratings by </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Bonanza</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">. </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">The Gary Moore Show</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> had been a hit when it premiered in 1959 on NBC, and anything CBS put against </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Bonanza</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> didn&rsquo;t work. So when Gary Moore really tanked, they needed a fast replacement. They didn&rsquo;t have a drama series sitting on the shelf ready to go, so they turned to the Smothers Brothers. The head of programming at the time, Mike Dann, rightly looked at them as what they were: just a couple of young goofball kids making fun of folk music.&rdquo;</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Unlike today, when overnight ratings provide almost immediate feedback, television executives in the 1960s often waited as long as two weeks before learning whether a new series had found an audience. By the time the first ratings arrived for </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">, which premiered in January 1967, the cast and crew were already taping the third episode.</span></p>
<p><b>DAVID BIANCULLI: </b><span style="font-weight: 400;">&ldquo;That&rsquo;s when they found out, &lsquo;Oh, people are watching. Then a couple more ratings books came in and they found themselves to be a Top 10 program. </span><a href="https://www.womansworld.com/entertainment/classic-tv/bonanza-cast" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Bonanza</span></i></a><span style="font-weight: 400;"> was also a Top 10 program, but sometimes </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> actually got higher ratings. They couldn&rsquo;t dethrone </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Bonanza</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">, but they brought in a whole new audience of young people. After about three ratings books, they began to realize, &lsquo;Hey, we&rsquo;ve got some clout here. Let&rsquo;s do more of what we want.&rsquo; And that&rsquo;s exactly what they did.&rdquo;</span></p>
<p><b>GEOFFREY MARK: </b><span style="font-weight: 400;">&ldquo;The ratings were phenomenal. They insisted, &lsquo;This is what we do, and this is why we&rsquo;re delivering you great ratings. Get your hands off the show.&rsquo;&rdquo;</span></p>
<p><b>DAVID BIANCULLI:</b><span style="font-weight: 400;"> &ldquo;They had designed the initial shows simply to appeal to as many people as possible. That&rsquo;s why you had <a href="https://www.womansworld.com/entertainment/music/simon-and-garfunkel-songs" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Simon &amp; Garfunkel</a> on the same show as Kate Smith. Somebody from old show business and somebody from the new generation, and they didn&rsquo;t just appear in separate segments like on </span><a href="https://www.womansworld.com/entertainment/music/7-memorable-acts-from-the-ed-sullivan-show-throughout-its-23-years" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">The Ed Sullivan Show</span></i></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">. They put them together in sketches and really capitalized on the contrast. One show had Mickey Rooney and Bette Davis. There was a real diversity in the guests every week.&rdquo;</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">&ldquo;I think it was the 10th show of the first season where they did a long sketch called &lsquo;Billy the Kid&rsquo;s Birthday. Tom played Billy the Kid and everybody else were the outlaws. Janet Leigh guest-starred as Belle Starr, while Simon &amp; Garfunkel played troubadours who sang about the outlaws. It started like a traditional shoot-&rsquo;em-up Western where they give Billy a birthday cake, but then they get into a fight and decide they&rsquo;re going to kill him. Dick Smothers says, &lsquo;Wait a minute! Maybe fighting&rsquo;s not the answer. Maybe love is the answer.&rsquo; Tom decides he wants to ride off with Janet Leigh. Well, you can&rsquo;t do that on television. You can kill on TV, but you can&rsquo;t make love on TV. So one of the CBS outlaws says that doesn&rsquo;t seem right&hellip; and kills him. Then it goes back to the troubadours, who sing, &lsquo;Sometimes you want to say something when people don&rsquo;t expect you to say something.'&rdquo;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">&ldquo;It was just the weirdest bit of television I think I&rsquo;d ever seen up to that point. I was 15 or 16 years old, and it was television talking about itself and making you question what was acceptable on TV and what wasn&rsquo;t. From that show on, they just started doing more and more. They were making fun of the president, they were making fun of the Vietnam War, they were bringing on all these new rock acts and doing blackout sketches about racism. Then one of their supporting players, Pat Paulsen, ran for president. Just brilliant.&rdquo;</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">If &ldquo;Billy the Kid&rsquo;s Birthday&rdquo; demonstrated that </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> was willing to push television&rsquo;s boundaries, the obvious question became: Where would the brothers go from there? The answer arrived in the form of writer and performer Elaine May, who joined Tommy Smothers in a sketch playing a pair of television censors screening a movie. The audience never saw what was unfolding on the screen before them&mdash;only the censors&rsquo; increasingly uncomfortable reactions. That alone was enough to alarm CBS, which refused to allow the sketch to air.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Behind the scenes, the battle was becoming about far more than a single sketch. As the Smothers Brothers became increasingly willing to tackle politics, the Vietnam War and the cultural upheaval of the late 1960s. CBS executives found themselves caught between one of television&rsquo;s biggest hits and mounting pressure from both sponsors and Washington.</span></p>
<p><b>GEOFFREY MARK: </b><span style="font-weight: 400;">&ldquo;It became a push-me, pull-you tug of war between people trying to make the Nixon administration happy and wanting the huge ratings the Smothers Brothers were delivering.&rdquo;</span></p>
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<p><b>DAVID BIANCULLI: </b><span style="font-weight: 400;">&ldquo;In response, Tommy flew to New York, and this was the first time an entertainer went to a serious newspaper to complain about censorship in terms of content. The press loved it and ran with it. So automatically it became &lsquo;CBS vs. The Smothers Brothers,&rsquo; and it just got worse and worse, because the network didn&rsquo;t want viewers to know there were censors&mdash;much less that CBS employed them. But every time Tom felt he&rsquo;d been wronged, he went to the newspapers. This was the height of the &rsquo;60s. CBS became the very stern parents and Tom and Dick were the rebellious teenagers. It was just a lot of butting heads.&rdquo;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">&ldquo;Tom really was young enough to think, &lsquo;I&rsquo;m right, and I&rsquo;ll win this.&rsquo; That didn&rsquo;t quite happen. Over the course of those three seasons, you can watch the brothers mature as performers and as people. By the start of the third season, they were actually singing about being censored. They brought on Pete Seeger, but CBS censored the song he wanted to perform. So they went back to the press, and within that same season they were able to bring him back and air the song. They won some fights, but lost others.&rdquo;</span></p>
<p><b>GEOFFREY MARK: </b><span style="font-weight: 400;">&ldquo;The more Tom and Dick got leaned on, the more they held onto the idea that they had to become even more radical.&rdquo;&nbsp;</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">By the third season, </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> was no longer the Top 10 sensation it had once been. Yet despite the ongoing battles over content, CBS continued renewing the series and, for a time, tolerated the brothers&rsquo; increasingly confrontational relationship with the network.</span></p>
<p><b>DAVID BIANCULLI: </b><span style="font-weight: 400;">&ldquo;The more political they became, the more they alienated some of the older audience. By the third season, they weren&rsquo;t a Top 10 show anymore. They were more like a Top 25 show. But they were still a very popular program and, under almost any other circumstances, they would have stayed on the air. As a matter of fact, they&rsquo;d already been renewed for a fourth season before CBS fired them. One of the things that happened was David Steinberg came on the show and did a sketch in which he played a minister delivering a sermon. It generated more negative mail than anything else in the history of television up to that point.&rdquo;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">&ldquo;CBS told the Smothers Brothers they couldn&rsquo;t bring him back and, if they did, absolutely no more sermons. The short version is that they invited him back very quickly. They did the run-through with the censors there, and there wasn&rsquo;t a sermon in it&mdash;they were just running the show. After the rehearsal, David Steinberg said to Tommy, &lsquo;You know, I sort of expected another sermon.&rsquo; Tommy asked, &lsquo;Would you like to do one?&rsquo; David was an improv comic, so he said, &lsquo;Okay.&rsquo; When they taped the show the next day, they included it&mdash;but it never aired. The entire episode never aired, and that was basically it. It was like breaking curfew for the last time. CBS decided it simply wasn&rsquo;t worth the hassle anymore.&rdquo;</span></p>

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<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">&ldquo;On top of that, the CBS executives, advertising executives and programming executives would go to their country clubs in upstate New York, and all their wealthy, conservative Republican friends would ask, &lsquo;Why are you letting those boys do that?&rsquo; It became a real issue, and that was the end of </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">.&rdquo;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Although </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> ended its run in 1969, David believes its influence lived on through </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Saturday Night Live</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">, which premiered on NBC six years later.</span></p>
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<p><b>DAVID BIANCULLI: </b><span style="font-weight: 400;">&ldquo;And Lorne Michaels is still there as a very strong arbiter of public tastes. He chooses the guest hosts, the musical guests and all the people who&rsquo;ve come through </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Saturday Night Live</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> over the decades. If the Smothers Brothers hadn&rsquo;t been fired by CBS, in just a few more years their show could have become just as powerful. Even in those three seasons, they were already creating stars. And when people watch the episodes, they&rsquo;re going to see just how many musical superstars appeared on that show. The Doors were there doing things they never did anywhere else. Jefferson Airplane created the first psychedelic television background with colored oils being dropped behind them while they performed.&rdquo;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">&ldquo;If they hadn&rsquo;t been canceled, the show would have gone on to deal with Woodstock and Watergate, and they would have featured artists like James Taylor and Elton John. George Harrison even appeared unannounced simply to support what the Smothers Brothers were doing. And when The Beatles stopped touring and released promotional films for &lsquo;Hey Jude&rsquo; and &lsquo;Revolution,&rsquo; they only allowed them to be shown on David Frost&rsquo;s program in the U.K. and </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> in the United States.&rdquo;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Looking back more than half a century later, David has little doubt about the show&rsquo;s place in television history.</span></p>
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